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Post by rgs318 on Apr 2, 2022 8:31:43 GMT -5
Absolutely. I had posted almost the same obection to personal attacks on Crossports. Disagreement is certainly possible without disrespect.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 2, 2022 12:26:07 GMT -5
Foley, you either didn't read the University of Utah's report, or you don't read the Title IX reports on the Dept. of Education's website, or both. For example, as acknowledged in the Dept. of Education's instructions for schools when preparing their Title IX reports, the Title IX reports are highly aggregated., particularly the data on the revenue side. As a bonus, the link below is to an audit of Bill & Mary's athletics revenue and expense reporting for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2020. The audit displays details on revenue by source, and expenses by category. This audit has some of the detail in the NCAA revenue and expense report. For example, W&M's football expenses exceeded revenue by nearly $3 million. W&M's football coaches were paid $2,036,000; football team travel cost $465,000, etc., etc. About 60 percent of total football revenue came from alumni donors and the endowment (restricted endowment funds for football). Media rights generated a whopping $21,000. Detail is also provided on the Tribe's men and women's basketball program. Men's hoops spent more on recruiting than football did. See: www.wm.edu/offices/financialoperations/documents/wmncaa2020.pdfLiterally pages 40-50 of that Utah report are the same numbers in the DOE report. Perhaps you ought to see see your optician, or a medical professional re: a reading disorder, as pages 40-50 in the Utah report are not the same as what is included in the Title IX report. For example, the Utah report breaks out the salaries of all head coaches. On p. 44, the compensation for the head football coach is listed: $4,945,518. If you find that salary number for the head football coach in the Utah Title IX report, I'll eat my hat at half-time at a Holy Cross football game of your choosing. On p. 48 of the Utah NCAA report, we learn there was a severance payment of $1,275,568 for a men's basketball coach. How many posters on this board would be very interested in knowing how much HC paid to buy-out a coach's contract? But alas, you won't ever find severance payments in a Title IX report. Apologies for continuing this thread, ............
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 2, 2022 12:47:52 GMT -5
Depends on the sport...Bryant baseball was top of the conference with Franklin Pierce when they went D-1. FP is now second in the NE-10 to the SNHU program. SNHU right now would beat HC eight out of 10 games games. SNHU has had eleven draft picks since 2011. Just to be clear, they would beat Harvard 8 out of 10 as well? Go see SNHU and tell me with your own eyes what you see. The difference between the top ten in D-2 and lower level D-1 arms is not there.
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Post by thecrossisback on Apr 2, 2022 13:07:01 GMT -5
Just to be clear, they would beat Harvard 8 out of 10 as well? Go see SNHU and tell me with your own eyes what you see. The difference between the top ten in D-2 and lower level D-1 arms is not there. Big deal they can beat Assumption and Stonehill. Low D1 sure.......
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Post by mm67 on Apr 2, 2022 14:00:50 GMT -5
SNHU? Never saw this before?
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 2, 2022 18:52:01 GMT -5
Go see SNHU and tell me with your own eyes what you see. The difference between the top ten in D-2 and lower level D-1 arms is not there. Big deal they can beat Assumption and Stonehill. Low D1 sure....... Soon to be D-1 Stonehill from what I am hearing....
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 2, 2022 22:27:42 GMT -5
Saw this posted link on BGA the other day. With Bryant leaving the NEC. Now the next college of “Jefferson’s”, looking to move on up ..... is Stonehill, with plan to apply to the NEC for membership.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 2, 2022 23:16:58 GMT -5
"If we're spending seventy-five cents for D-2, might as well pony up a buck and go D-1"
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Post by timholycross on Apr 3, 2022 9:58:24 GMT -5
What's the latest on UNH II, that is, University of New Haven; who seems to want to upgrade as well.
I think it's funny that all of the schools Assumption used to pummel in their glory days have all moved up; and AU hasn't.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2022 10:49:00 GMT -5
What's the latest on UNH II, that is, University of New Haven; who seems to want to upgrade as well. I think it's funny that all of the schools Assumption used to pummel in their glory days have all moved up; and AU hasn't. AU moved up to University status, which was smart and mainly cost repainting signs and printing new letterhead when the old stock was used up. Going D-1 could cost hundreds of thousands or more per year, especially for a school with the Holy Trinity of Football, Hockey (men only) and baseball. Boston University only supports one of those three sports.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 3, 2022 15:13:26 GMT -5
Stonehill DI? Pinch me.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2022 15:35:53 GMT -5
It's only a dream. When you wake up HC will have accepted the Big East invite and Merrimack and Bryant will be back in the NE-10.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 3, 2022 15:47:25 GMT -5
It's only a dream. When you wake up HC will have accepted the Big East invite and Merrimack and Bryant will be back in the NE-10. Wake me up when in 10 years when our record against Stonehill in football is 1-3. And basketball 1-5
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 3, 2022 15:52:44 GMT -5
Wait for those numbers and you may never get to wake up.
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Post by Ignutz on Apr 3, 2022 18:22:56 GMT -5
Is this thread STILL going???
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 3, 2022 18:55:49 GMT -5
What's the latest on UNH II, that is, University of New Haven; who seems to want to upgrade as well. I think it's funny that all of the schools Assumption used to pummel in their glory days have all moved up; and AU hasn't. AU moved up to University status, which was smart and mainly cost repainting signs and printing new letterhead when the old stock was used up. Going D-1 could cost hundreds of thousands or more per year, especially for a school with the Holy Trinity of Football, Hockey (men only) and baseball. Boston University only supports one of those three sports. Stonehill has the holy trinity plus adding women's hockey in the fall.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 4, 2022 18:28:51 GMT -5
Going D-1 could cost hundreds of thousands or more per year, especially for a school with the Holy Trinity of Football, Hockey (men only) and baseball. Boston University only supports one of those three sports. If the NCAA ever ended a minimum sports threshold, BU would probably drop sports to just hockey and a handful of others.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 4, 2022 18:52:20 GMT -5
In 2019-20, Stonehill spent $7.6 million on its entire athletic program, that's $2 million more than Holy Cross spent on football.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 5, 2022 9:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 5, 2022 9:38:38 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 5, 2022 10:20:55 GMT -5
Doesn't Stonehill have a great cross country team? That may be one sport where the school moves up without blinking an eye
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 5, 2022 10:54:48 GMT -5
Doesn't Stonehill have a great cross country team? That may be one sport where the school moves up without blinking an eye They seem to be in the hunt for the title at every NE-10 track event I cover.
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Post by rf1 on Apr 5, 2022 10:57:15 GMT -5
There for a long time were only six D1 schools in Massachusetts - Holy Cross, UMass, BC, Northeastern, Harvard, and BU. There will now soon be nine with UMass-Lowell, Merrimack, and Stonehill. I would further think it only a matter of time before Bentley makes it ten.
Connecticut has followed a similar path. Just three with UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Now seven after adding Hartford, CCSU, Sacred Heart, Quinnipac. Looks like it will remain at seven even with hartford dropping back down and the Univ of New Haven looks to take its place in D1.
Even Rhode Island added Bryant to get to four with URI, PC, and Brown.
The three northern New England states of Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine remain stable with four D1 schools while the three southern states will soon have added about nine new members.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 5, 2022 11:17:34 GMT -5
There for a long time were only six D1 schools in Massachusetts - Holy Cross, UMass, BC, Northeastern, Harvard, and BU. There will now soon be nine with UMass-Lowell, Merrimack, and Stonehill. I would further think it only a matter of time before Bentley makes it ten. Connecticut has followed a similar path. Just three with UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Now seven after adding Hartford, CCSU, Sacred Heart, Quinnipac. Looks like it will remain at seven even with hartford dropping back down and the Univ of New Haven looks to take its place in D1. Even Rhode Island added Bryant to get to four with URI, PC, and Brown. The three northern New England states of Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine remain stable with four D1 schools while the three southern states will soon have added about nine new members. Will SNHU, St. A's, St. Mike's and Franklin Pierce get D-1 fever, too? It's an epidemic. Hartford may not be the last team to move down. Higher Education is far from a stable industry. Someone needs to articulate and sell the D-2 raison d'etre. I think it's a grand division, not too hot not too cold, just like the porridge in Goldilocks and the Three Bears. But college administrators seem to think moving out of it to D-1 will be their salvation. Time will tell.
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Post by gks on Apr 5, 2022 11:57:45 GMT -5
Great move for Stonehill. The more schools in New England investing in athletics pushes everyone else. I'm a firm believer in rising tides raises all boats.
Football facility won't need much to be a decent New England FCS facility. They can just hit W.B. Mason up for it. No clue what their basketball facility is but I'm sure it's fine for now.
NE-10 has really changed over the last couple of decades. Interesting to see if Assumption tries the move.
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