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Post by efg72 on Feb 8, 2023 22:52:35 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 8, 2023 23:32:16 GMT -5
PL FB is the most boring two bid conference in FCS. No membership changes in ages, none expected.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 9, 2023 8:14:09 GMT -5
IMHO, stability within a conference is a desired goal, certainly not boring. Opinions can differ.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 9, 2023 8:22:57 GMT -5
PL FB is the most boring two bid conference in FCS. No membership changes in ages, none expected. PL football is almost always a one bid league and it is fair to say we haven’t added/subtracted new PL football members lately.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 9, 2023 8:25:11 GMT -5
I'll take what we have football-conference-wise versus what Bryant has now.
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Post by mm67 on Feb 9, 2023 8:25:39 GMT -5
The PL model of academics & athletics is one which many admire.
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Post by bigfan on Feb 9, 2023 8:59:19 GMT -5
If the PL model is what many admire why is it that no one is looking to join the league?
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Post by trimster on Feb 9, 2023 9:11:09 GMT -5
This should be good for at least 3 pages, maybe 4.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 9, 2023 9:11:25 GMT -5
They don’t meet the minimum academic standards.😉
But seriously, no one is leaving or being added to the Ivy League and like it or not, that has been the model for the Patriot League - academics first. I happen to think Holy Cross is where it should be.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 9, 2023 9:27:19 GMT -5
I don't think it's the killer in football some people make it out to be. Don't see attractive alternatives, especially since the CAA has adopted a Southern Strategy (copyright, 1968 Nixon Campaign). Don't see anything in that league that attractive any more save for the New England schools.
Never know what might happen in the future, however.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 9, 2023 9:34:18 GMT -5
If the PL model is what many admire why is it that no one is looking to join the league? How do you know that is so? There are schools that have wanted to join but were turned down - FDU in New Jersey for one. They tend not to post on Crossports, preferring to deal directly with the PL officials.
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Post by necfbfan on Feb 9, 2023 10:31:59 GMT -5
I don't think it's the killer in football some people make it out to be. Don't see attractive alternatives, especially since the CAA has adopted a Southern Strategy (copyright, 1968 Nixon Campaign). Don't see anything in that league that attractive any more save for the New England schools. Never know what might happen in the future, however. Lol I'll really fan the fire. Picture this: The year is 2036, FBS has continued to expand, and the ACC has collapsed (This is when the GoR expires). Schools like Boston College, Syracuse, and Pitt are looking to form a new "Big East," adding Army and Navy. But they need at least 5 more schools to round out the conference to an even 10. In comes Holy Cross? In this scenario they'd really be limited to UMass/UConn/Temple/Buffalo/dipping into the FCS. Worcester, as the second-largest city in New England, could be an attractive candidate. To me, this is the long-term dream scenario. I'll admit, I could be living in La-La-Land with this prognostication.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 9, 2023 10:34:09 GMT -5
You lost me at GoR. What the heck is that?
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 9, 2023 10:34:50 GMT -5
PL FB is the most boring two bid conference in FCS. No membership changes in ages, none expected. PL football is almost always a one bid league and it is fair to say we haven’t added/subtracted new PL football members lately. Can we get a victory lap for a year as a two bid conference? That was one exciting campaign last fall.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 9, 2023 11:47:34 GMT -5
The PL model of academics & athletics is one which many admire. "We have created a model for others to follow. So far, no one has followed."--John Brooks S.J. Such is the story of the Patriot League, "the conference where programs go to die." It has successfully chased off competitive programs in the name of institutional purity, while demanding little or nothing of its existing membership to be competitive.
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Post by trimster on Feb 9, 2023 12:07:41 GMT -5
The PL model of academics & athletics is one which many admire. "We have created a model for others to follow. So far, no one has followed."--John Brooks S.J. Such is the story of the Patriot League, "the conference where programs go to die." It has successfully chased off competitive programs in the name of institutional purity, while demanding little or nothing of its existing membership to be competitive. I remember that quote. Seems to me the IL already had patented the model. We became followers of the IL.
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Post by football44 on Feb 9, 2023 12:10:29 GMT -5
The PL model of academics & athletics is one which many admire. "We have created a model for others to follow. So far, no one has followed."--John Brooks S.J. Such is the story of the Patriot League, "the conference where programs go to die." It has successfully chased off competitive programs in the name of institutional purity, while demanding little or nothing of its existing membership to be competitive. Amen DFW! I couldn't agree more. For years the PL has tried to compare itself to the Ivies. Not happening. Being a charter member of the PL makes it tougher for HC to jump out. With the success of football we really need to investigate moving to the CAA with the state of college football being the way it is today. Our admissions the last 2 years have been fantastic. Increases every year from what I've heard. In part due to the positive exposure and the success of football. This needs to continue in my humble opinion.
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Post by trimster on Feb 9, 2023 12:11:11 GMT -5
I don't think it's the killer in football some people make it out to be. Don't see attractive alternatives, especially since the CAA has adopted a Southern Strategy (copyright, 1968 Nixon Campaign). Don't see anything in that league that attractive any more save for the New England schools. Never know what might happen in the future, however. I agree on the alternatives. Given the choice between a schedule full of CAA games and the current setup, I'll take the latter. I do think the PL has been a killer in hoops, the Willard Era aside.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 9, 2023 12:28:54 GMT -5
...and Colgate? They seem to be doing pretty well in hoops.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 9, 2023 13:02:17 GMT -5
I don't think it's the killer in football some people make it out to be. Don't see attractive alternatives, especially since the CAA has adopted a Southern Strategy (copyright, 1968 Nixon Campaign). Don't see anything in that league that attractive any more save for the New England schools. Never know what might happen in the future, however. The CAA signed an eight figure media rights agreement today
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 9, 2023 13:04:04 GMT -5
The PL model of academics & athletics is one which many admire. "We have created a model for others to follow. So far, no one has followed."--John Brooks S.J. Such is the story of the Patriot League, "the conference where programs go to die." It has successfully chased off competitive programs in the name of institutional purity, while demanding little or nothing of its existing membership to be competitive. "Walk this way!" - Aerosmith
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 9, 2023 13:07:59 GMT -5
I don't think it's the killer in football some people make it out to be. Don't see attractive alternatives, especially since the CAA has adopted a Southern Strategy (copyright, 1968 Nixon Campaign). Don't see anything in that league that attractive any more save for the New England schools. Never know what might happen in the future, however. The CAA signed an eight figure media rights agreement today Flo Sports? The "K-Mart Kennedy" of Sports Streamers.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 9, 2023 13:12:12 GMT -5
The CAA signed an eight figure media rights agreement today Flo Sports? The "K-Mart Kennedy" of Sports Streamers. Well, the Big East uses FloSports for the olympic sports also. The CAA deal calls for 20 regular season basketball games on CBS Sports Network.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 9, 2023 13:13:54 GMT -5
I'm so thankful HC and the PL went away from that awful Stadium deal and are with ESPN+.
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Post by mm67 on Feb 9, 2023 13:35:58 GMT -5
HC did not follow the IL model. In the early '50's HC acknowledged its long standing policy that student-athletes are academically representative of the student body. Around that time the IL was officially established with the same policy as HC had been following in previous years. HC & the Ivies have been joined at the hip for 70 years. AI is a tool to implement this policy. Please keep the facts straight. Additionally, I would appreciate fewer indecipherable abbreviations, eg "GOR" and mystifying references such as the "deep-pocketed guy from Minnesota." Communication is only effective to the degree it is understood.
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