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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 18, 2023 9:48:15 GMT -5
Israel has the right not to put up with never-ending terrorist attacks. 1,400 Israeli deaths are equivalent to about 30k if this happened in the U.S. That's the town of Shrewsbury. Gone. The thinking of Israel should just put up with this non-sense year after year after year is garbage and needs to end. Palestine has had their chance to get rid of Hamas. They chose not to. No one ever said that but to kill innocent Palestinians is just as bad. Two wrongs don't make it right. There are reports right now (not sure if true) that Israel bombed a Palestine hospital yesterday. Is that right?
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Post by hcpride on Oct 18, 2023 10:36:54 GMT -5
Israel has the right not to put up with never-ending terrorist attacks. 1,400 Israeli deaths are equivalent to about 30k if this happened in the U.S. That's the town of Shrewsbury. Gone. The thinking of Israel should just put up with this non-sense year after year after year is garbage and needs to end. Palestine has had their chance to get rid of Hamas. They chose not to. On a less serious front, The Babylon Bee tops their recent satiric article “ Harvard Student Leaves Lecture On Microaggressions To Attend ‘Kill The Jews’ Rally” with these knee-slappers, “Hamas Clarifies They Meant To Start The Type Of War Where They Get To Do Whatever They Want And No One Fights Back” And “Liberals Call for Cancelling Normandy Invasion as Innocent French People Live There”
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Post by Tom on Oct 18, 2023 11:10:38 GMT -5
Israel has the right not to put up with never-ending terrorist attacks. 1,400 Israeli deaths are equivalent to about 30k if this happened in the U.S. That's the town of Shrewsbury. Gone. The thinking of Israel should just put up with this non-sense year after year after year is garbage and needs to end. Palestine has had their chance to get rid of Hamas. They chose not to. No one ever said that but to kill innocent Palestinians is just as bad. Two wrongs don't make it right. There are reports right now (not sure if true) that Israel bombed a Palestine hospital yesterday. Is that right? According to President Biden's remarks this morning, early indication is the hospital was hit by a Hamas rocket that went off course
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 18, 2023 11:14:48 GMT -5
Might have it wrong but thought it was neither IDF nor Hamas but another terrorist anti-Israeli organization but aligned with Hamas, so they are willing to accuse IDF rather than their ally.
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Post by gks on Oct 18, 2023 11:50:24 GMT -5
Israel has the right not to put up with never-ending terrorist attacks. 1,400 Israeli deaths are equivalent to about 30k if this happened in the U.S. That's the town of Shrewsbury. Gone. The thinking of Israel should just put up with this non-sense year after year after year is garbage and needs to end. Palestine has had their chance to get rid of Hamas. They chose not to. On a less serious front, The Babylon Bee tops their recent satiric article “ Harvard Student Leaves Lecture On Microaggressions To Attend ‘Kill The Jews’ Rally” with these knee-slappers, “Hamas Clarifies They Meant To Start The Type Of War Where They Get To Do Whatever They Want And No One Fights Back” And “Liberals Call for Cancelling Normandy Invasion as Innocent French People Live There” The Babylon Bee is outstanding but unfortunately their jokes aren't far from the truth with some.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 19, 2023 6:31:54 GMT -5
Might have it wrong but thought it was neither IDF nor Hamas but another terrorist anti-Israeli organization but aligned with Hamas, so they are willing to accuse IDF rather than their ally. When you see/hear the evidence the US and Israel have - and take a look at the footage from the scene presented - it looks like a pretty obvious Hamas hoax. And a pretty obvious case of a Iranian-backed Palestinian terror group killing Palestinians via failed rocket attack. Too bad the press ran with it (without evidence, BTW) for a couple of days as it inflamed the situation. Wonder if the 'trust Hamas' ranks are diminished?
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Post by purplenurple on Oct 19, 2023 11:12:31 GMT -5
Might have it wrong but thought it was neither IDF nor Hamas but another terrorist anti-Israeli organization but aligned with Hamas, so they are willing to accuse IDF rather than their ally. When you see/hear the evidence the US and Israel have - and take a look at the footage from the scene presented - it looks like a pretty obvious Hamas hoax. And a pretty obvious case of a Iranian-backed Palestinian terror group killing Palestinians via failed rocket attack. Too bad the press ran with it (without evidence, BTW) for a couple of days as it inflamed the situation. Wonder if the 'trust Hamas' ranks are diminished? Like the bogus "beheaded babies" story that is still being parroted? Both sides employ these tactics.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 19, 2023 12:38:14 GMT -5
When you see/hear the evidence the US and Israel have - and take a look at the footage from the scene presented - it looks like a pretty obvious Hamas hoax. And a pretty obvious case of a Iranian-backed Palestinian terror group killing Palestinians via failed rocket attack. Too bad the press ran with it (without evidence, BTW) for a couple of days as it inflamed the situation. Wonder if the 'trust Hamas' ranks are diminished? Like the bogus "beheaded babies" story that is still being parroted? Both sides employ these tactics. The reports of 40 beheaded babies is apocryphal but IDF troops have reported seeing one beheaded baby and others killed and burned. Apparently some IDF soldiers were beheaded.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 19, 2023 12:45:40 GMT -5
Like the bogus "beheaded babies" story that is still being parroted? Both sides employ these tactics. The reports of 40 beheaded babies is apocryphal but IDF troops have reported seeing one beheaded baby and others killed and burned. Apparently some IDF soldiers were beheaded. 40 dead babies is 40 dead babies. The method of their execution is somewhat irrelevant.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 19, 2023 19:37:31 GMT -5
I thought President Biden communicated the situation well in his speech tonight. Scary times. Would be nice if Congress ended their strike.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 19, 2023 20:16:21 GMT -5
I thought President Biden communicated the situation well in his speech tonight. Scary times. Would be nice if Congress ended their strike. Did they fix his chin?
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 19, 2023 20:47:21 GMT -5
Must have. I didn't know it was broken.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 19, 2023 20:48:58 GMT -5
I thought President Biden communicated the situation well in his speech tonight. Scary times. Would be nice if Congress ended their strike. Did they fix his chin? Very petty.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 20, 2023 4:45:10 GMT -5
I thought President Biden communicated the situation well in his speech tonight. Scary times. Would be nice if Congress ended their strike. President Biden definitely reiterated US support for Israel following his trip there. Too bad the Hamas/media hospital hoax caused the Arab leaders (Jordan's King Abdullah II, Egypt's El-Sissi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas) to cancel their carefully planned meeting with Biden. I would imagine all three know the truth now.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 20, 2023 7:26:03 GMT -5
I thought President Biden communicated the situation well in his speech tonight. Scary times. Would be nice if Congress ended their strike. President Biden definitely reiterated US support for Israel following his trip there. Too bad the Hamas/media hospital hoax caused the Arab leaders (Jordan's King Abdullah II, Egypt's El-Sissi and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas) to cancel their carefully planned meeting with Biden. I would imagine all three know the truth now. I would imagine all three knew the truth when they cancelled the meetings.
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Post by mm67 on Oct 20, 2023 9:03:29 GMT -5
Unfortunately, on the "Arab Street" the truth about the hospital explosion simply does not matter. The populace is enraged with hatred against Jews. Many in the Mid-East believe there is no truth other than their "truth" that Israel must be driven into the sea & cease to exist. Kill Jews is the mantra of Hamas & others in the area.The current leaders are well aware that the late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat made peaceful overtures to Israel & signed a deal with Israel which in fact resulted in his assassination at the hands of Muslim terrorists. The hatred stoked by Nasser & other Arab leaders in the '40's-'60's so they could remain in power ironically has imprisoned current Arab leaders who fear this violent hatred of Jews will be turned against them if they begin to show signs of making peace (viewed as weakness) with Israel. Horrible!
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 20, 2023 9:54:52 GMT -5
I thought President Biden did a great job explaining how one can, and should be, both as a nation and individually, against Hamas and what they stand for and did in Israel and concurrently supportive of the multitude of innocent Palestinians in Gaza and we should be assisting both as much as we are able. And, for freedom loving democracies, we should be supporting Israel and Ukraine while condemning anti-semitism and anti-muslim and anti-Arabist at home.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 17, 2023 13:11:45 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Nov 17, 2023 15:48:30 GMT -5
Jesus H Christ, Wellesley College?
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Post by Tom on Nov 18, 2023 8:50:36 GMT -5
Jesus H Christ, Wellesley College? Kind of interesting that of the seven schools, most are very high end. Three Ivy's and one sister school. We live in scary times
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Post by hcpride on Nov 18, 2023 9:20:50 GMT -5
Jesus H Christ, Wellesley College? Kind of interesting that of the seven schools, most are very high end. Three Ivy's and one sister school. We live in scary times To the extent UPenn’s president had to publish this statement last week: Last night, vile, antisemitic messages were projected onto several campus buildings, including on Penn Commons, Huntsman Hall, and Irvine Auditorium. Penn Police were notified and quickly responded, and a full investigation is currently underway. We will pursue this matter to the fullest extent and take swift action in accordance with our policies. For generations, too many have masked antisemitism in hostile rhetoric. These reprehensible messages are an assault on our values and cause pain and fear for our Jewish community. Penn has a long and rich history of robust debate about complicated issues of the day. Projecting hateful messages on our campus is not debate, it is cowardice, and it has no place at Penn.www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/news/statement-from-president-magill-on-antisemitic-messages/
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Post by newfieguy74 on Nov 18, 2023 9:25:50 GMT -5
I have friends who are academics at some of the named schools. To some extent, the faculty and administration quake in fear. I've heard stories of: students walking out of a class when they found the discussion upsetting, refusing to show up for discussions of Shakespeare because it's "triggering", and demanding that a professor re-write the class syllabus to conform to what the students felt they should be reading. You wonder how these students will function in the real world.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 18, 2023 10:19:52 GMT -5
Maybe the students will make a bold statement about their points of view by flunking out
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Post by hcpride on Nov 18, 2023 10:46:56 GMT -5
I have friends who are academics at some of the named schools. To some extent, the faculty and administration quake in fear. I've heard stories of: students walking out of a class when they found the discussion upsetting, refusing to show up for discussions of Shakespeare because it's "triggering", and demanding that a professor re-write the class syllabus to conform to what the students felt they should be reading. You wonder how these students will function in the real world. In the recent UPenn situation it is the college president dismayed at the projection of antisemitic statements onto her campus buildings (and one imagines any CEO of any corporation in the real world [outside of Tehran] might be similarly dismayed). But your point regarding faux micro-aggressions (long dead authors like Shakespeare and otherwise) and the academy is very well taken.
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Post by Tom on Nov 18, 2023 10:52:16 GMT -5
I've heard stories of: students walking out of a class when they found the discussion upsetting, refusing to show up for discussions of Shakespeare because it's "triggering", and demanding that a professor re-write the class syllabus to conform to what the students felt they should be reading. I can't blame them. Life would be better if I only encountered pleasant things. I should not have been forced to read Moby DIck. Way more information about whale blubber than I needed to know ------------------------------------------------ On a related note someone made a triggering post on another thread by mentioning the name "Travis Diener" This is very upsetting to me and should be deleted.
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