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Post by longsuffering on Nov 18, 2023 20:52:37 GMT -5
If a professor teaches Shakespeare and wants to drill down on the Israel-Hamas War to analyze which of the Bard's plays relate to it, I would walk out. At least for an extended bathroom break. There have been few global issues in the news in recent years as ugly as this War. I skim the daily headlines on the conflict and quickly move on.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 19, 2023 10:47:21 GMT -5
Pro-Palestinian/Anti-Israel demonstration (small, as these things go) in the stands at the H-Y football game. Of course.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 19, 2023 17:24:00 GMT -5
I liked the old days when MIT students would sneak into Harvard Stadium the night before the game and plant a weather balloon that would come up through the turf during the game and spell out M.I.T. instead of these political protests. Put the work in to draw your own crowd of 51,000 instead of leaching off the football tradition of these two esteemed (except by some on Crossports😉) institutions.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 19, 2023 19:26:56 GMT -5
Pro-Palestinian/Anti-Israel demonstration (small, as these things go) in the stands at the H-Y football game. Of course. There was a president of our fine institution that once used the phrase "the company you keep". Perhaps time HC stopped scheduling schools who don't take a stand on this sort of behavior.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 19, 2023 19:35:04 GMT -5
Pro-Palestinian/Anti-Israel demonstration (small, as these things go) in the stands at the H-Y football game. Of course. Hopefully responded to by one of the following: 1. Ignored and the game went on (preferred). 2. Met with a shower of soda, beer, popcorn, etc.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 19, 2023 21:13:25 GMT -5
/\ Between the outdoor masking and the irrelevant "no justice no peace" chanting this seems to be a rather goofy mélange of left wing nuttiness disguised as a protest against Israel (of course) and Yale or something along those lines. Genocide? As one wit put it earlier this week, if Israel is committing genocide it is a rather benign form of it considering the rapidly growing Palestinian population. I'm imagining nothing like this occurred at Fitton Field during the clash of the Jesuit rivals.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 20, 2023 7:23:46 GMT -5
/\ Between the outdoor masking and the irrelevant "no justice no peace" chanting this seems to be a rather goofy mélange of left wing nuttiness disguised as a protest against Israel (of course) and Yale or something along those lines. Genocide? As one wit put it earlier this week, if Israel is committing genocide it is a rather benign form of it considering the rapidly growing Palestinian population. I'm imagining nothing like this occurred at Fitton Field during the clash of the Jesuit rivals. I dont see anything wrong with peaceful protest. Better than disrupt an event, stopping traffic or getting violent. To my understanding, they wear masks to avoid getting doxxed on the internet. Unfortunately, criminals have the same idea and wear face coverings all the time to avoid facial recognition. Easier now that public masking has been normalized. There was brief discussion among NYC City Council to ban masks earlier this year amidst pleas from small business owners.
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Post by Tom on Nov 20, 2023 8:29:09 GMT -5
/\ Between the outdoor masking and the irrelevant "no justice no peace" chanting this seems to be a rather goofy mélange of left wing nuttiness disguised as a protest against Israel (of course) and Yale or something along those lines. Genocide? As one wit put it earlier this week, if Israel is committing genocide it is a rather benign form of it considering the rapidly growing Palestinian population. I'm imagining nothing like this occurred at Fitton Field during the clash of the Jesuit rivals. I dont see anything wrong with peaceful protest. Better than disrupt an event, stopping traffic or getting violent. To my understanding, they wear masks to avoid getting doxxed on the internet. Unfortunately, criminals have the same idea and wear face coverings all the time to avoid facial recognition. Easier now that public masking has been normalized. T here was brief discussion among NYC City Council to ban masks earlier this year amidst pleas from small business owners. Seems a little outside the jurisdiction of the city council. On the other hand, I would think a small business owner could make that choice. A lot of banks have signs saying no masks (,hats, hoodies, or sunglasses)
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 20, 2023 10:19:13 GMT -5
I dont see anything wrong with peaceful protest. Better than disrupt an event, stopping traffic or getting violent. To my understanding, they wear masks to avoid getting doxxed on the internet. Unfortunately, criminals have the same idea and wear face coverings all the time to avoid facial recognition. Easier now that public masking has been normalized. T here was brief discussion among NYC City Council to ban masks earlier this year amidst pleas from small business owners. Seems a little outside the jurisdiction of the city council. On the other hand, I would think a small business owner could make that choice. A lot of banks have signs saying no masks (,hats, hoodies, or sunglasses) Not sure, but if they can mandate masks certainly they could ban them, or so you'd think.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 20, 2023 10:33:49 GMT -5
This appears to be a modern version of "no shoes, no shirt, no service."
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Post by Tom on Nov 20, 2023 11:10:57 GMT -5
Seems a little outside the jurisdiction of the city council. On the other hand, I would think a small business owner could make that choice. A lot of banks have signs saying no masks (,hats, hoodies, or sunglasses) Not sure, but if they can mandate masks certainly they could ban them, or so you'd think. I do not agree with that logic. You can make an argument that a mask mandate is a public health concern. A mask ban certainly doesn't help public health. In fact, all surgeons on TV are required to wear masks (even the occasional M*A*S*H episode that had surgery during shelling), I can't see a mask ban in the operating room helping public health. The only rational I can think of is a public safety concern if people hide their face from the millions of cameras out there. And I think that would be a stretch. Of course, not every public official agrees with my logic. Didn't NYC once have a ban on large Coke?
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 20, 2023 13:17:51 GMT -5
If not "public health" one could still argue that it is a "public safety" concern. After all, isn't that why so many robbers wear masks of various types?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 20, 2023 15:01:55 GMT -5
If not "public health" one could still argue that it is a "public safety" concern. After all, isn't that why so many robbers wear masks of various types? Yes, especially since the start of COVID where it's no longer suspicious to be out in public with tour face covered up. I dont think there was ever talk of banning masks in hospitals lol. Maybe it was city council discussing a bill that would've ALLOWED business owners to ban masks that I'm thinking of as opposed to straight up banning them outright. Long story short, it didn't go anywhere. I remember reading about it briefly earlier this year.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 21, 2023 8:13:51 GMT -5
Idle thought: did the masked marauders join in on the rushing of the field when Yale won Saturday?
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Post by Tom on Nov 21, 2023 9:11:26 GMT -5
If not "public health" one could still argue that it is a "public safety" concern. After all, isn't that why so many robbers wear masks of various types? Yes, especially since the start of COVID where it's no longer suspicious to be out in public with tour face covered up. I dont think there was ever talk of banning masks in hospitals lol. Maybe it was city council discussing a bill that would've ALLOWED business owners to ban masks that I'm thinking of as opposed to straight up banning them outright. Long story short, it didn't go anywhere. I remember reading about it briefly earlier this year. As mentioned above, I did think of the public safety as a possible justification for a ban, but I still think it's a stretch of their jurisdiction. Allowing businesses to ban masks is another story. I would assume a city council can regulate commerce within the city limits as long as regulations don't contradict state or federal regulations. For what it's worth, even before COVID I have been known to wear a mask when skiing or snowmobiling in sub zero temperatures. In those instances, my face might be a little chilly if there was an outright ban on masks. Fortunately, I do neither activity inside the New York City limits
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Post by hcpride on Nov 21, 2023 14:37:40 GMT -5
Idle thought: did the masked marauders join in on the rushing of the field when Yale won Saturday? Interestingly, there were two protestors (clad VERY differently and apparently unconnected to the pro Palestinian/anti-Israel group) who were arrested for running on the field during the game. Nearly Nude PETA Protesters Arrested after Interrupting Harvard/Yale Football GameNEW HAVEN, Conn. (WTNH) – Three members of PETA were arrested Saturday at the Harvard/ Yale football game after two of them ran onto the field nearly nude in protest of Harvard’s medical research methods. Two topless women, body painted as macaques monkeys, ran onto the field during the third quarter of the game, holding signs that read, “Harvard: End Monkey Tests!”.Police confiscated the signs and detained the two women, according to PETA representatives. A third protestor wearing a shirt that read, “Harvard: Shut down the monkey lab,” was also detained and later arrested.
www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/new-haven/nearly-nude-peta-protesters-arrested-after-interrupting-harvard-yale-football-game/
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 21, 2023 17:01:47 GMT -5
"not only Republicans" ----what an outrageous statement.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 21, 2023 18:49:27 GMT -5
"not only Republicans" ----what an outrageous statement. In the interests of civility I will delete but my opinion remains the same. There is outrage here, too. Seems like you’re insinuating democrats (and not republicans) are the ones that have a moral compass…
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Post by mm67 on Nov 21, 2023 19:05:01 GMT -5
In the interests of civility I will delete but my opinion remains the same. There is outrage here, too. Seems like you’re insinuating democrats (and not republicans) are the ones that have a moral compass… Actually, I took a nap. A dear friend alerted me to the brouhaha starting to bubble up. Checked & deleted. No, Both extremist left wing Dems & extremist right wing Repubs have endorsed & engaged in hateful anti-semitic behaviors in recent times from Charlottesville("Jews Will not Replace Us" anti-semitic March ,-"some are good people.") to the hateful anti-semitic protests today. Traditionally, going all the way back anti-semitism has been pinned on the Republican far right. There is plenty of anti semitic hatred on the far left Democratic fringe, the Squad, etc , too. Don't want to start a pillow fight. I think the points were made. Best to move on, no? Peace.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 21, 2023 19:32:23 GMT -5
Can’t believe nobody’s commenting on the the half-naked PETA Harvard monkey protest at the Harvard Yale game. Not something you see every day. Made more sense than the (masked and otherwise) pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel screamers at the game. Granted it’s a low bar.
BTW there is film of the monkey protest on the New Haven PETA site but it is not family friendly.
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Post by alum on Nov 22, 2023 6:16:07 GMT -5
Can’t believe nobody’s commenting on the the half-naked PETA Harvard monkey protest at the Harvard Yale game. Not something you see every day. Made more sense than the (masked and otherwise) pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel screamers at the game. Granted it’s a low bar. BTW there is film of the monkey protest on the New Haven PETA site but it is not family friendly. Imagine what the PETA types would have thought if they had seen the Yalies in their raccoon coats at The Game one hundred years ago.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 22, 2023 8:31:57 GMT -5
Would have been protesting Disney and Fess Parker for the coonskin cap too. Good thing they weren't around with Davey Crockett or Daniel Boone.
In fairness to them, some animals we humans want to protect. Others, they are ripe for experimentation on. I think most of us would be upset if the family dog was part of some scientific experiment and maybe even cats (!)? [Yes, I'm a "dog person", not a "cat person"]
How many of us think Koreans eating dogs is a bad thing, raise your hand?
I guess it comes down to your starting point. In the Bible, God created the animals for mankind and humans would be master over all. Others come from the perspective that all animals are equal, neither beneath nor superior to humans.
If you come from the former position, humans can pick and choose which animals become food, experimented on or become household pets or, at least, domesticated.
Not sure there could ever be a rational discussion on the subject between the two opposing positions.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2023 8:50:17 GMT -5
Can’t believe nobody’s commenting on the the half-naked PETA Harvard monkey protest at the Harvard Yale game. Not something you see every day. Made more sense than the (masked and otherwise) pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel screamers at the game. Granted it’s a low bar. BTW there is film of the monkey protest on the New Haven PETA site but it is not family friendly. Imagine what the PETA types would have thought if they had seen the Yalies in their raccoon coats at The Game one hundred years ago. They would be so outraged they’d go full-naked in protest. 😀 (Way) off the topic but those raccoon coats I’ve seen the upper crust sporting in the old photos were kinda nutty looking IMHO.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 22, 2023 9:07:36 GMT -5
Absolutely! They should have been wearing mink or chinchilla coats!
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Post by Tom on Nov 22, 2023 9:54:05 GMT -5
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
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