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Post by hcpride on Nov 28, 2023 8:02:08 GMT -5
Lets savor the coach while we have him. You do not get to be successful in athletics without constantly wanting to succeed against the best...the FBS lure will always be there. Frankly it’s probably a bad thing for HC football if he doesn't leave soon as that means FBS lost interest in him for one reason or another. He's done an amazing job and been an amazing ambassador for our school and football program, but he has also earned the right to look onward and upward. There were already some Syracuse fan questions regarding a perceived downturn in Chesney performance (undefeated regular season to 7-4 regular season). If we’re down a bit next year following the departure of many stars…
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 28, 2023 8:05:51 GMT -5
I continue to hope that BC is to HC what Coach Steig was to SDSU - happy with his situation for a long time, and financially well-supported by his school. That combination will produce benefits to all involved - Ches, the School, and most importantly, the young men he brings in (and then sends out four or five years later).
And for the record: I am completely fine with Bob Chesney leaving Holy Cross - right after he wins us a National Championship.
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Post by hc1996 on Nov 28, 2023 8:14:57 GMT -5
This is great news!! With a few minor tweaks to legacy processes, i.e. 9th semester, redshirts, etc, Chesney has a real chance to win that national championship at HC. We need the administration and the PL to continue to evolve. Exciting time to be a Crusader!!
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 28, 2023 8:31:05 GMT -5
It has been unprecedented in the FCS era at Holy Cross though with only ONE NCAA FCS appearance without Chesney coaching them. I count two. 1983 and 2009. Patriot League was founded in 1986 so I wouldn't call 1983 part of the current FCS era...plus that was 40 years ago now.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 28, 2023 8:37:43 GMT -5
Lets savor the coach while we have him. You do not get to be successful in athletics without constantly wanting to succeed against the best...the FBS lure will always be there. Frankly it’s probably a bad thing for HC football if he doesn't leave soon as that means FBS lost interest in him for one reason or another. He's done an amazing job and been an amazing ambassador for our school and football program, but he has also earned the right to look onward and upward. There were already some Syracuse fan questions regarding a perceived downturn in Chesney performance (undefeated regular season to 7-4 regular season). If we’re down a bit next year following the departure of many stars… When this first came up I dismissed it out of hand for that very reason...the iron was hottest, so to speak, last year. I presumed if Chesney didn't leave then, and instead got extended (I'm sure with some protections for HC re: buyout, etc.) chance of there being sufficient interest for him to leave this year after a perceived down year was nil. Next year, vis-a-vis Chesney leaving, could be even more problematic if we have a successful season. I think it is well known the level of talent at a variety of positions that we are losing...if Chesney is able to restock the cupboard and remain a top 25 program, I think that raises his stock even higher. However, at least in Syracuse's eyes, this may not have been a down year for HC. We played 2 FBS programs, both on Cuse's schedule, and put ourselves in a position to win both games. Those 2 losses, specifically for the Syracuse job, may have done more for Chesney than last year's 12-1 record.
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Post by crusader1970 on Nov 28, 2023 8:44:23 GMT -5
I count two. 1983 and 2009. Patriot League was founded in 1986 so I wouldn't call 1983 part of the current FCS era...plus that was 40 years ago now. Troll.
This is a day of celebration for HC football and this is what you post?
Enough said.
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Post by alum on Nov 28, 2023 8:47:02 GMT -5
I count two. 1983 and 2009. Patriot League was founded in 1986 so I wouldn't call 1983 part of the current FCS era...plus that was 40 years ago now. Well, HC was booted to I-AA in 1981, and FCS is simply a successor name for I-AA, and the PL has nothing to do with it, and you didn't put a time limit on it, and I am old enough to remember it, so it counts.
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Post by breezy on Nov 28, 2023 8:48:26 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Nov 28, 2023 8:54:08 GMT -5
As I suggested earlier, once this situation is resolved, put together a new long term contract for Chesney at $700 k, a nice 15-20% bump for the assistants, with a buyout clause of two-three years, and a commitment to address the food and nutrition
The additional cost to HC for all of that is far less than $1m plus that was suggested. If the funds aren’t raised by the athletic department from outside sources a second buy game each season pays for it all.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 28, 2023 8:57:02 GMT -5
As I suggested earlier, once this situation is resolved, put together a new long term contract for Chesney at $700 k, a nice 15-20% bump for the assistants, with a buyout clause of two-three years, and a commitment to address the food and nutrition The additional cost to HC for all of that is far less than $1m plus that was suggested. If the funds aren’t raised by the athletic department from outside sources a second buy game each season pays for it all. While this teacher may not have the deepest pockets in the world, I would be very happy to make a donation with an announcement like that
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Post by timholycross on Nov 28, 2023 9:01:24 GMT -5
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, or in our case a bfoley82; but there are going to be other jobs opening up in the next couple of weeks, and some might be more of a mutual fit.
So, don't take him staying at HC to the bank just yet. Hope he does, but that's just me and you hoping.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 28, 2023 9:03:21 GMT -5
I sure hope this proves to be true that Coach Chesney is staying at Holy Cross. Let’s please see an announcement soon that Syracuse has signed Coach Brown
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Post by sader81 on Nov 28, 2023 9:11:59 GMT -5
I’m all for Ches doing what’s best for him and his family, and if a power 5 school approaches with a boatload of money, I can’t blame him for leaving. That said, HC has been blessed to have him and he has been lucky to be coaching great, coachable young men. His coaching style is upbeat, unique and his players have bought in wherever he has gone. I do question whether he would have the same reaction with power 5 players in the new NIL era. The character of some of these players is light years away from what he has been coaching. I’m glad it appears he’ll stay in Worcester for a while!
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Post by hc1996 on Nov 28, 2023 9:17:04 GMT -5
I'm hoping Chesney listens to the coaches who are basically throwing their hands up in the current NIL era. Just listen to Jim Mora at UConn. Super negative every time you hear him speak. He's basically saying UConn has no chance to be successful in football in this new era. It's depressing to listen to him, but he's right.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 28, 2023 9:23:38 GMT -5
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, or in our case a bfoley82; but there are going to be other jobs opening up in the next couple of weeks, and some might be more of a mutual fit. So, don't take him staying at HC to the bank just yet. Hope he does, but that's just me and you hoping. Always going to be the case- as Yogi said it ain't over until it's over. But a ten-year contract with a buy out might give us some control of our future revenue stream. Also think about Langel at Colgate-- I know it is a different sport and hard to compare but after a few years there is comfort with certainty.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 28, 2023 9:52:55 GMT -5
There were already some Syracuse fan questions regarding a perceived downturn in Chesney performance (undefeated regular season to 7-4 regular season). If we’re down a bit next year following the departure of many stars… When this first came up I dismissed it out of hand for that very reason...the iron was hottest, so to speak, last year. I presumed if Chesney didn't leave then, and instead got extended (I'm sure with some protections for HC re: buyout, etc.) chance of there being sufficient interest for him to leave this year after a perceived down year was nil. Next year, vis-a-vis Chesney leaving, could be even more problematic if we have a successful season. I think it is well known the level of talent at a variety of positions that we are losing...if Chesney is able to restock the cupboard and remain a top 25 program, I think that raises his stock even higher. However, at least in Syracuse's eyes, this may not have been a down year for HC. We played 2 FBS programs, both on Cuse's schedule, and put ourselves in a position to win both games. Those 2 losses, specifically for the Syracuse job, may have done more for Chesney than last year's 12-1 record. HC going 7-4 had literally nothing to do with the Syracuse decision to go with Fran Brown (if he accepts). Some Jambroni online saying it does not make it the case. It has everything to do with only needing one hand to count the number of coaches that have gone from FCS to power five in the modern era and all those coaches with the exception of Prime had some connection/experience with that school or conference. Chesney would’ve been a very polarizing hire at Syracuse among the insider donor base and they don’t need that for a school trying to raise 3 million in NIL dollars.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 28, 2023 9:59:33 GMT -5
When this first came up I dismissed it out of hand for that very reason...the iron was hottest, so to speak, last year. I presumed if Chesney didn't leave then, and instead got extended (I'm sure with some protections for HC re: buyout, etc.) chance of there being sufficient interest for him to leave this year after a perceived down year was nil. Next year, vis-a-vis Chesney leaving, could be even more problematic if we have a successful season. I think it is well known the level of talent at a variety of positions that we are losing...if Chesney is able to restock the cupboard and remain a top 25 program, I think that raises his stock even higher. However, at least in Syracuse's eyes, this may not have been a down year for HC. We played 2 FBS programs, both on Cuse's schedule, and put ourselves in a position to win both games. Those 2 losses, specifically for the Syracuse job, may have done more for Chesney than last year's 12-1 record. HC going 7-4 had literally nothing to do with the Syracuse decision to go with Fran Brown (if he accepts). Some Jambroni online saying it does not make it the case. It has everything to do with only needing one hand to count the number of coaches that have gone from FCS to power five in the modern era and all those coaches with the exception of Prime had some connection/experience with that school or conference. Chesney would’ve been a very polarizing hire at Syracuse among the insider donor base and they don’t need that for a school trying to raise 3 million in NIL dollars. I wasn't suggesting once he was looked at that somehow this year's record precluded him...but knowing a FBS school would have to sell the hire to their fans I always thought he stood a much better chance to get looked at last year instead of this year
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Post by cthc21 on Nov 28, 2023 10:09:05 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 28, 2023 10:29:14 GMT -5
I f we do retain Coach Chesney even Foley would have to be happy. He wouldn't have to start an investigation into the new coach, his spouse, his children--past coaching record, comments to the media, parking tickets, overdue library books--all that takes a lot of time and effort!
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 28, 2023 10:53:54 GMT -5
With "him whom I shall not name," Crossports has its own personal Voldemort. If you dislike his posts, try putting a block on them and certainly do not post them over again when you quote him...please. If you do, they will appear even where others have blocked him and that can be annoying.
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Post by ignatius on Nov 28, 2023 17:16:24 GMT -5
Fran Brown to Cuse is official.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 28, 2023 17:19:18 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Nov 28, 2023 17:21:23 GMT -5
If 'Cuse goes all in on the upfront NIL money I'd expect Fran Brown to land some quality recruits and boost their roster. That is his specialty.
Glad they hired him.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 28, 2023 17:21:24 GMT -5
Fran Brown, Nation’s No. 1 Recruiter, Tapped to Lead Orange Football 11/28/2023 4:57:00 PM | Football Share:
The nation's top recruiter, a member of the 2022 College Football National Championship coaching staff and a New Jersey native, will soon take the helm of Orange Football. Today, Director of Athletics John Wildhack announced that Fran Brown, currently defensive backs coach at the University of Georgia, has been named the 31st head coach of Syracuse University Football.
Brown will be officially introduced as head football coach at a press conference on Monday, Dec. 4, at the Ferguson Football Auditorium in the George R. Iocolano and William C. Petty Football Wing at the John A. Lally Athletics Complex. Details of the press conference will follow.
"I am incredibly proud to be leading Syracuse Football at a university with a rich and storied tradition of academic and athletic excellence," says Brown. "Syracuse Football has outstanding talent, great facilities and passionate alumni. The success of the players is my No. 1 priority—on and off the field. I want my guys to succeed in life, because they played football at Syracuse. My immediate area of focus is building relationships with my current players and putting together an elite staff, while also having fun on the recruiting trail. I'm ready to get to work and look forward to building something special for our fans."
Brown joined the University of Georgia in early 2022 where he was part of the coaching staff that led the undefeated Bulldogs to victory in the 2022 College Football National Championship. Under the leadership of the defensive coaching staff, the Georgia defense finished the season ranked among the nation's leaders in rushing defense, scoring defense, red zone defense and total defense. The defense also finished the season with two first team All-Americans and finalists for awards, including the Butkus Award, the Rotary Lombardi Award, the Bronko Nagurski Trophy and the Shaun Alexander Freshman of the Year Award.
According to 247Sports, Brown is the No. 1 recruiter in the nation for the 2024 recruiting class and has played a critical role in attracting top talent to Georgia. This designation follows his recruitment of two five-star prospects, both of whom are ranked No. 1 in their respective positions. Brown brings with him deep ties to New Jersey and the Northeast, which will allow him immediate recruiting success for the Orange.
"Fran is an outstanding coach, recruiter and person, and exactly who we need to take Syracuse Football to the next level," says Wildhack. "Fran has clearly articulated a vision for the future of our football program, and he is a powerhouse recruiter with deep ties to the geographies from where we need to draw consistently. Fran has had tremendous success recruiting to a variety of programs—in the South, Southwest and Northeast, and I have no doubt he will bring that track record here to Syracuse. I am looking forward to welcoming Fran and his family to the Orange community. The future is bright for our football program."
A former student-athlete, Brown played football at Western Carolina University, where he was named a team captain and earned First Team All-SoCon selection at cornerback for the Catamounts. He went on to play two seasons in the NFL with the Cincinnati Bengals. Chancellor Kent Syverud says Brown's experience as a college and professional football player combined with his coaching prowess positions him well to support Syracuse University's student-athletes' success both on and off the field.
"What impressed me most during my conversation with Fran is his deep commitment to our student-athletes," says Chancellor Syverud. "He knows how to win and how to recruit. But most importantly, he is passionate about mentoring and guiding student-athletes in all aspects of their lives. Fran is the kind of coach who is going to demand excellence from his student-athletes and coaching staff in everything they do—on the field, in the classroom and in our community."
Brown's extensive resume includes stops at Rutgers University, Temple University (2011-16, 2019), Baylor University (2017-18) and Paul VI High School (2010). During his career, Brown has worked with some of the top coaches in the country, including Georgia's Kirby Smart and University of Nebraska's Matt Rhule. Both Kirby and Rhule offered high praise for Brown.
"Fran is excellent," says Smart. "No ego, he's trustworthy, smart and he's worked really hard during his two seasons here to earn an opportunity like this. He has built great relationships in our building, our players love him and we couldn't be more excited for him, Teara and their family."
"Fran Brown will be a tremendous leader for the Syracuse program," says Rhule. "His commitment to improving the lives of the players he coaches will only be matched by his passion for coaching on the field. Syracuse will recruit elite talent, retain and develop those players, and produce a team that everyone can be proud of."
Prior to joining the Georgia staff, Brown was defensive backs coach at Rutgers for two seasons under Head Coach Greg Schiano. In his first year with the program, his secondary helped create 19 turnovers in 2020, 10 more than the previous season and the most since 2012 for the Scarlet Knights. Schiano offered congratulations to Brown upon the news of his hiring.
"I am proud of Fran and thrilled for him to have this opportunity," says Schiano. "Syracuse University is getting both a dynamic coach and a great addition to their community. I'm elated for Fran and his whole family."
Before Rutgers, Brown was co-defensive coordinator and cornerbacks coach at Temple. While there, the defensive unit was nationally ranked in red zone defense, sacks, defensive touchdowns, tackles-for-loss and fumbles recovered. At Temple, Brown recruited or coached five players who went on to play in the NFL, including three draft picks: Harrison Hand (fifth round, Minnesota Vikings), Shaun Bradley (sixth round, Philadelphia Eagles) and Chapelle Russell (seventh round, Tampa Bay).
Brown has also recruited and worked with future NFL players, such as Sean Chandler, P.J. Walker, Hasson Reddick, Jullian Taylor, Sharif Finch, Jacob Martin and Raquell Armstead.
At Baylor, Brown served as the assistant head coach/defensive backs coach. While in Waco, he helped turn the program around from a 1-11 season in 2017 to a 7-6 mark the following year, which culminated in a Texas Bowl victory.
Brown grew up in Camden, New Jersey, and earned a bachelor's degree in criminal justice at Western Carolina University. Brown and his wife, Teara, have two sons, Fran Jr. and Brayden, and a daughter, Ivy Ann.
Brown takes over a Syracuse program rich with tradition, which will play in its second-consecutive bowl game later this season. The Orange has won 743 games in its history, which ranks 23rd all-time among current FBS teams, boasts one national championship, a Heisman Trophy winner and five conference titles.
Fans can show their support for the Orange by joining Orange United or Athletes Who Care, giving to the 'Cuse Athletics Fund and making 2024 season ticket deposits, which are available now at Cuse.com/Tickets, for fans to be part of the next era of Syracuse football.
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Post by hc1996 on Nov 28, 2023 17:25:43 GMT -5
Gonna be a really challenging post game presser for him after his loss to HC next season.
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