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Post by bison137 on Aug 13, 2021 15:48:00 GMT -5
What does anyone think are the chances of either St Joe's or LaSalle being a home and home? Maybe a two-for-one. For St. Joes at least, I doubt a home-and-home.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 12, 2021 12:47:58 GMT -5
Do the MAAC and the PAC12 have school mandatory vaccine policies ? How many PL schools have that policy ? Not required in the MAAC or the PAC12. I know Bucknell requires it. And I am almost certain it is required at all of the other private schools. But as of two days ago, it was not required at Army or Navy.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 9, 2021 17:12:53 GMT -5
Wouldn't a degree from Holy Cross Law be worth off the bat more than one from 2 or 3 of the local law schools that are just law schools? No offense to them; I'm sure there are many talented people who've come out of them and been successful. IMO the last thing MA, or the US, needs is another law school. Lawyer salaries don't justify the cost of attending law schools. Yes in many cases. But not for the top law schools, where a grad might be making upwards of $500k in less than a decade.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 8, 2021 14:03:11 GMT -5
Bucknell always seems to put together a solid MBB schedule. Sad to see the Penn St series has gone the way of HC-BC in basketball. I do seem to recall that the game was always in State College. When was the last time the Nittany Lions came to Sojka? 2014-15 season.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 5, 2021 22:47:55 GMT -5
Fairfield released their ooc today - our date is Wednesday Dec 8th at Webster Bank Arena (Bridgeport) When was the last time we had a weekend game in the NYC area ? I think Iona was a Sunday awhile back but I do not like the lack of success in getting a game that alums around here can get to on a weekend. Anyone know the status of Fairfield’s planned 3500 seat convocation center? I think it was originally supposed to open in 2021 but Covid messed that up. The most recent plan was to tear down Alumni Hall following the 2020-21 season, which happened, and then begin construction of the new arena on the same site. As far as I know it is on schedule to open in November 2022 for that season. The plan continues to be for Fairfield to play all home games in Webster Bank Arena in Bridgeport in front of a few friends and family.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 5, 2021 20:49:47 GMT -5
Isn't Penn State a semi-regular opponent? Used to be, now a very occasional opponent, despite having played over 100 times. Elaborating on what res said, Bucknell most recently played PSU in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2018. For many years, until about 1970, the two used to meet twice a year, home and home. Then they went to one a year for a few years - with the home court alternating. But PSU at some point around 1976 announced they would no longer make the long 55 mile bus ride even occasionally. At that point, Charlie Woollum refused to play them at all if they wouldn't at least do a two-for-one. (At that point, Bucknell and PSU used to play regularly in most sports, with many games being played in Lewisburg.) When Flannery took over in 1994, they renewed the series and played every year for a decade. The suddenly in 2004-05 (the year Bucknell beat Pitt, Kansas, St. Joes, etc), Penn State suddenly couldn't find room on the schedule any more. That continued until the year after Muscala graduated.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 5, 2021 20:31:04 GMT -5
bison - which of the series pre date the PL? For many years, Bucknell was in the same league with La Salle, Hofstra, and Rider - so they have played those three 30+ times each - with all series going back over 50 years. (La Salle series started in 1903.) Also St. Francis - which is the third closest D1 program to Bucknell - has been a semi-regular opponent for 90 years. The Penn series goes back 125 years, but they have played a surprisingly few number of times. Princeton has been a somewhat common opponent in recent years - with the first game having been played 120 years ago. The Siena series goes back about 37 years - but the two have only played seven times.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 4, 2021 11:35:28 GMT -5
For those who are interested, this is Bucknell's 2021-22 schedule:
Date Opponent Time (ET) Series Record
Nov. 9 at North Carolina State TBA 0-1
Nov. 14 PENN 2 p.m. 3-4
Nov. 17 RIDER TBA 30-25
Nov. 20 at Illinois State# 3 p.m. 1-1
Nov. 23 vs. Mercer^ 3 p.m. 0-1
Nov. 24 vs. Middle Tennessee or Rider^
Nov. 28 SIENA 2 p.m. 1-5
Dec. 1 at Saint Francis (Pa.) TBA 17-12
Dec. 4 at Hofstra TBA 20-10
Dec. 7 at Princeton TBA 4-15
Dec. 18 LA SALLE 2 p.m. 8-20
Dec. 22 at Richmond TBA 4-3
Dec. 29 at Albany TBA 7-2
# Cancun Challenge campus site game
# Cancun Challenge at Cancun, Mexico
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Post by bison137 on Aug 1, 2021 23:47:58 GMT -5
August 1 and the soccer schedule still isn't posted. In 2019 the first game was August 30. This seems pretty weird. first day that official men’s games can be played this year is August 26. First date for the women is August 19, and their schedule is not up either.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 28, 2021 17:33:45 GMT -5
I watched the UFC yesterday instead of the Olympics. Japan may be the last Democracy to drop billions on the games. France has the summer games in three years I believe so it will be interesting if they cut back on spending. . . . An Autocracy like China or Russia can go all out but I sense Democracies will be less inclined. Just noticed this, so sorry for the late response. As you mention, France has the 2024 games. But two more democracies have the following two Olympics. Los Angeles long ago locked up the 2028 games. And just last week, Brisbane was awarded the 2032 games. (Hungary and Germany are two other contenders who were knocked out earlier in the new streamlined bidding process.)
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Post by bison137 on Jul 28, 2021 10:10:13 GMT -5
Japan beats USA 2-0 for the Gold Medal in softball Japan's women beat USA in 3 X 3 basketball--that certainly surprises me The U.S. had already clinched first in the pool standings prior to this game, so their motivation level may not have been at its highest. Japan, who many picked to win a medal, ended up the pool play tied for 2nd. So while many don't picture Japan as being a basketball country, they apparently are pretty good in the 3x3 version. The US women ended up getting the gold today by beating the Russians in the final. In the men’s competition, the Russians also lost, this time to Latvia.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 27, 2021 17:27:59 GMT -5
Does anyone know the formula? Obviously, there are 14 voters (assume the HC and AD from each of the seven schools), but how many points for a first-place vote, etc? Is this a you-can't-vote-for-yourself poll? My solve for x and y algebra skills aren't what they used to be, so I'm forced to ask for the answer sheet! The primary reason for my asking is to determine if there may have been voters who did not have our Crusaders in their top two. Two votes by each school, and you can't vote for yourself. Each 1st place vote is worth 6 points (since there are six schools a given voter has to rank) and a 6th place vote (which is last place on a given voter's ballot) is worth one point. So since there are twelve voters casting votes for a given school, with six points for a first place vote, a perfect "score" would by 12 x 6 = 72 points. A team that was a unanimous pick for last would have 12 points.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 27, 2021 14:13:09 GMT -5
Japan beats USA 2-0 for the Gold Medal in softball Japan's women beat USA in 3 X 3 basketball--that certainly surprises me The U.S. had already clinched first in the pool standings prior to this game, so their motivation level may not have been at its highest. Japan, who many picked to win a medal, ended up the pool play tied for 2nd. So while many don't picture Japan as being a basketball country, they apparently are pretty good in the 3x3 version.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 26, 2021 10:10:04 GMT -5
Having said that, there were hundreds of players, at least, who had no interest at all in playing a consolation game. That's why they finally got rid of it. For many years, there were even consolation games at the Regionals. And there were many who wanted to win third place nationally very much. IIRC, the reason they finally dropped the consolation game was the very negative publicity over the UCLA players wanting to skip the game and to go home. Also, knowing the state of college athletics and the media even back then, they probably did not make enough money on it to make it worth the trouble. They didn’t drop the game for seven more years after UCLA was reluctant to play in it. There were many many more publicized cases of players saying they had no interest in playing in it before they finally got rid of it.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 25, 2021 20:29:18 GMT -5
That never happened. After losing a double OT game to NC State (David Thompson) in the 1974 semis, Walton and his teammates did not want to play the consolation game. but they were told by Wooden that was not an option. They played the game with little effort but still beat Kansas easily. Over the years, UCLA was also in a few other third place games, which they always played. Thanks for the correction. I am glad their coach had more sportsmanship than the players on that team. Having said that, there were hundreds of players, at least, who had no interest at all in playing a consolation game. That's why they finally got rid of it. For many years, there were even consolation games at the Regionals.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 25, 2021 12:57:26 GMT -5
It ranks up there for poor sportsmanship with the UCLA refusal to play for 3rd in the NCAA (as was done then) after losing in the semis. That never happened. After losing a double OT game to NC State (David Thompson) in the 1974 semis, Walton and his teammates did not want to play the consolation game (few players ever did), but they were told by Wooden that was not an option. They played the game with little effort but still beat Kansas easily. Over the years, UCLA was also in a few other third place games, which they always played.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 24, 2021 9:00:36 GMT -5
I don't know much about water polo (but have a vague memory of blood in the water during some Olympic matches involving Russia and countries they mistreated). Are there enough other schools that have teams in this part of the US to have a full schedule of matches? Yes. The majority of water polo teams are in California and a few other western states, but there are plenty of eastern schools. In addition to playing the eastern schools, Bucknell every year makes a trip to California over Columbus Day weekend for a tournament and a few other games. And some of the California schools make eastern trips as well, so there is no problem getting games. The eastern schools that play D1 regular season water polo include: - Navy - Bucknell - La Salle - Fordham - George Washington - St. Francis (NY) - Wagner - Mount St. Mary’s - Gannon University - Iona College - Mercyhurst - Salem University - Washington & Jefferson - Johns Hopkins - MIT - Princeton - Brown - Harvard Note: some of the above move over to D3 for the NCAA tournament.
At the end of the year, there is a northern and a southern division tournament, with the winners of the two advancing to an NCAA play-in game. The winner of that game becomes one of six teams to make the NCAA tournament. That is usually held in California, which is where all of the top team are, but Bucknell hosted not too many years ago. Usually the top seven in the national polls are from California, but a few eastern teams slot in after that. Over time the top four in the east have been Bucknell, Navy, Princeton, and St. Francis (NY), which is largely foreign players. Bucknell has won the eastern championship the last two seasons and advanced to the NCAA's in California. Unfortunately over time, a number of programs have been lost due both to Title IX and problems with facility availability. Men's water polo (a fall sport) has a serious overlap with the swimming season, as does women's water polo, which is a spring sport. Schools without quality natatoriums may have problems squeezing in both sports. Two big rivals of Bucknell many years ago were Pitt and Army - both long gone. There are a lot more women's water polo programs these days. Also a huge number of club teams had big schools. Btw, these are the current top ten water polo world rankings: Montenegro Greece Croatia Hungary France Spain Georgia Italy United States Russia Serbia
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Post by bison137 on Jul 23, 2021 12:49:57 GMT -5
Sports not competed by AU and Loyola: Baseball AU & Loyola Field Hockey Loyola M/W golf AU W golf Loyola Men's lacrosse AU M/W Rowing AU Softball AU & Loyola M/W tennis AU Track & field. Loyola is cross country only AU does have wrestling, however, and gives some scholarships in that sport. Definitely not the max of ten however. Other PL schools also have non-PL sports other than hockey, which has already been addressed: Lehigh - wrestling (fully funded - ten scholarships) Bucknell - wrestling, men's water polo, women's water polo Loyola - men's rowing Colgate: men's rowing Boston - men's rowing Lafayette: fencing (Co-ed)
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Post by bison137 on Jul 22, 2021 18:44:18 GMT -5
PP, I’m going to challenge your premise - pls give me the details on aid given to M&W Tennis, M&W golf and M&W swimming at Lehigh, Lafayette, Colgate, Bucknell and Loyola I’m not saying I know but you seem to accept ADMB’s explanation why we’re so pathetically poor at these sports (save men’s golf recently). My personal theory is that there is ‘zero’ modest improvement goals given to these coaches. Just drive the van and keep the kids safe ! I can tell you that a Colgate golfer just joined the South American PGA tour...doubt he was paying his way there. He is even from Massachusetts too. Looking at Colgate's expenditures on golf, they might have one full scholarship over a four-year period. Not more than that. As for the golfer you mention, during his time at Colgate he never made 1st-team All-Patriot League and he never made 2nd team All-PL No reason to think he was on scholarship based on that. He is originally from South America. The one PL men's team that definitely does have multiple scholarships is Loyola btw..
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Post by bison137 on Jul 21, 2021 19:36:12 GMT -5
I can't answer for LC, Colgate, etc, but I can for Bucknell. There is no athletic aid for M&W golf, M&W tennis, and men's swimming. There are a few available for women's swimming - created to help offset football on the men's side.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 21, 2021 13:48:21 GMT -5
Tennessee may disagree Colgate 77-70 NCAA first round Kenpom—#89 in 2021 They played Arkansas The Colgate/Tennessee score was from the 2019 tournament.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 21, 2021 12:09:40 GMT -5
The Patriot League plays like D2. Then a lot of conferences must play like HS leagues. The PL ranked 21st and 23rd out of 32 conferences the last two full seasons. There are perhaps 19 leagues that are mid-major or low-major - so the PL is at least average of those leagues.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 21, 2021 11:54:32 GMT -5
At one point I was under the impression that the PL had a rule that members could not schedule D-2 teams to protect the strength of schedule for all members. Either that was a mis-impression or it has changed. The rule relating to D2/D3 games has changed a few times. Through 2007, there was no rule or limit. Army, Navy, and Lafayette used to routinely play two D2/D3 games. Then the league came up with a rule that schools could only play D1 games. That lasted a couple of years, but then budgets were affected by the financial meltdown. There was little money in the budget for travel, and opponents were reluctant to travel long distances for an OOC game. Thus the PL changed the rule in 2010 to allow one D2/D3 game a year, presumably to make scheduling easier/cheaper. Theoretically that rule was supposed to go away again when endowments returned to more robust numbers, but it never did. In fact it was changed in May 2020, in the middle of the worst of the pandemic, to allow teams to once again play two D2/D3 games. However it turned out PL teams didn't play any OOC in 2020, so that provision was moot for the year. Lafayette, Army and Navy have continued to play one D2/D3 team every year. No idea if any of them, r others, will go to two this year.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 20, 2021 13:42:27 GMT -5
The second video shows that it did roll onto the chalk just before the pitcher touched it. To me, not nearly as dumb as the play that started this thread. If the pitcher was a second faster, he did the absolute right thing Except for two things. First, no reason to bat the ball all the way to the dugout fence. Just touch it. Second, no reason to stand there arguing the call, instead of retrieving the ball, while the runners are circling the basepaths.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 17, 2021 12:46:26 GMT -5
Besides football, are other fall sports schedules posted ? The HC combined calendar for all sports only shows football games, so I don't think any other schedules have been released.
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