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Post by bison137 on Nov 11, 2017 12:07:29 GMT -5
It may be the backup keeper is the one used when they practice penalty kicks. And just guessing, the keeper on a long cold night hasn't moved much, and perhaps the cold tends to slow reaction times. _________________ Not wanting to jinx, but if HC gets past Colgate, the new Luth field will be great for practice. No, both keepers would be used while practicing PK's. . I'm sure it's simply a matter of the backup keeper being better in practice vs PK's. Likely taller and/or longer arms - and possibly quicker reaction time off his mark. Also different keepers are better or worse at reading which direction the shooter is going just before the ball is actually kicked (after the plant foot has hit the ground). That is unlikely to work vs professionals but it may work with college players.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 11, 2017 12:10:06 GMT -5
Two things, if the announcers were correct we were 1-3 in games decided by PKs prior to yesterday, and they said that this the first game of the season for the backup keeper. So for whatever reason our coach decided to use him, maybe one of the all time great coaching moves, he had not made the same substitution at any time this season That 1-3 mark must be all-time or over some period of years. The only games where PK's are taken are tournament games at the end of the year, so there was never a situation before last night where the coach had to select a goalkeeper for a PK shootout. In soccer, PK's are normally never used to decide a game - only to decide who advances when one team must be chosen. The game itself, at any level, goes into the record book as a tie.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 11, 2017 12:14:31 GMT -5
Thanks for that last item, bison. I was wondering if they count a "win" on PKs, or a tie. As long as HC advances, I have no issue with either method.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 11, 2017 12:17:45 GMT -5
Two things, if the announcers were correct we were 1-3 in games decided by PKs prior to yesterday HC is 3-2 all-time in games decided by penalty kicks.
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Post by lou on Nov 11, 2017 12:19:31 GMT -5
Two things, if the announcers were correct we were 1-3 in games decided by PKs prior to yesterday, and they said that this the first game of the season for the backup keeper. So for whatever reason our coach decided to use him, maybe one of the all time great coaching moves, he had not made the same substitution at any time this season That 1-3 mark must be all-time or over some period of years. The only games where PK's are taken are tournament games at the end of the year, so there was never a situation before last night where the coach had to select a goalkeeper for a PK shootout. In soccer, PK's are normally never used to decide a game - only to decide who advances when one team must be chosen. The game itself, at any level, goes into the record book as a tie. Thanks for clarifying 137, thought the announcers said we had won 1 of 3, Boston U 3 of 3, but weren't more specific
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Post by HC92 on Nov 12, 2017 15:52:17 GMT -5
Tied 0-0 late in the first.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 12, 2017 16:36:12 GMT -5
Colgate just scored. 1-0. 24 min left.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 12, 2017 16:53:39 GMT -5
Still Colgate by 1 with under 9 minutes left.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 12, 2017 17:01:05 GMT -5
Lost 1-0.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 12, 2017 17:15:24 GMT -5
Tough loss...good effort by HC with a number of scoring chances. Next season should be even better.
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Post by lou on Nov 12, 2017 17:16:48 GMT -5
Boys got much more aggressive on offensive when they got behind, bunch of opportunities but couldn't capitalize. Perhaps were playing too conservative early on
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 12, 2017 17:19:05 GMT -5
Saw the last 10-15 minutes and Crusaders totally outplayed 'gate . . . . except as happens frequently in soccer, didn't score. Hate to lose to them in any sport.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 13, 2017 16:37:31 GMT -5
Colgate faces UMass, the winner faces Michigan, presumably at Ann Arbor. Might be colder than the proverbial...... although I think the Michigan indoor football facility might be big enough for indoor play. But would need to be lined for soccer.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 13, 2017 17:08:27 GMT -5
the 'gate should fair better than the PL women's champ Bucknell. the bison played no. 7 west virginia in the ncaa 1st round and lost 3-0. they were outshot in the game 25-0 (that's not 'shots on goal', that's just shots they attempted). I am sure they were worthy league champs, but the gap in talent is pretty darn wide.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 13, 2017 17:41:06 GMT -5
the 'gate should fair better than the PL women's champ Bucknell. the bison played no. 7 west virginia in the ncaa 1st round and lost 3-0. they were outshot in the game 25-0 (that's not 'shots on goal', that's just shots they attempted). I am sure they were worthy league champs, but the gap in talent is pretty darn wide. Unfortunately it's impossible to compare the men and the women, since the top 16 men's teams get 1st round byes in the tournament - while all of the top women's teams play in the first round. Bucknell women played one of the top five teams in the nation for example. But Colgate's men will face UMass, who is #30 in the latest coaches' poll. That huge difference in tournament structure is why PL men's teams sometimes pick up a 1st round win, such as Navy in 2013, Bucknell in 2009 and 2006, Lehigh in 2008 (?), and American a couple of times. Fwiw, here is where the top PL soccer teams come out in one set of computer rankings (Bennett). Given the number of teams, the PL women clearly are better than the men. MEN: (Put of 204) 71 Loyola 90 Lehigh 117 Colgate 142 Boston WOMEN: (Out of 333) 80 Navy 97 Bucknell 98 Boston 156 Lehigh
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Post by bison137 on Nov 13, 2017 17:43:12 GMT -5
Colgate faces UMass, the winner faces Michigan, presumably at Ann Arbor. Might be colder than the proverbial...... although I think the Michigan indoor football facility might be big enough for indoor play. But would need to be lined for soccer. Unless there is a record blizzard, they won't be moving a soccer game indoors. Many games - even youth games - have been played with temperatures in the teens or even colder.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 15, 2017 11:49:31 GMT -5
Colgate faces UMass, the winner faces Michigan, presumably at Ann Arbor. Might be colder than the proverbial...... although I think the Michigan indoor football facility might be big enough for indoor play. But would need to be lined for soccer. Unless there is a record blizzard, they won't be moving a soccer game indoors. Many games - even youth games - have been played with temperatures in the teens or even colder. I would imagine a place the size of Michigan has an adequate outdoor turf soccer field available if their main field is grass. I doubt a grass field would be playable under a certain temperature (except for something state-of-the art like you would find in the NFL).
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Post by bison137 on Nov 15, 2017 13:16:04 GMT -5
Unless there is a record blizzard, they won't be moving a soccer game indoors. Many games - even youth games - have been played with temperatures in the teens or even colder. I would imagine a place the size of Michigan has an adequate outdoor turf soccer field available if their main field is grass. I doubt a grass field would be playable under a certain temperature (except for something state-of-the art like you would find in the NFL). They use grass fields at well under 32 degrees. Maybe not if it's zero - but that's not an issue this weekend.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 16, 2017 15:05:42 GMT -5
'gate upsets umass 2-0. great show for the PL. next a very tough matchup at Michigan on Sunday
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Post by bison137 on Nov 16, 2017 18:13:48 GMT -5
'gate upsets umass 2-0. great show for the PL. next a very tough matchup at Michigan on Sunday Good win - but not a huge upset. UMass ranked #30 in last coaches' poll. Both Colgate and Boston U had played them fairly evenly in the regular season. Now it gets tough, as the seeded teams begin play. Michigan is only the 13th seed however, so Colgate might be able to hang around.
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Post by alum on Nov 17, 2017 9:09:41 GMT -5
'gate upsets umass 2-0. great show for the PL. next a very tough matchup at Michigan on Sunday Good win - but not a huge upset. UMass ranked #30 in last coaches' poll. Both Colgate and Boston U had played them fairly evenly in the regular season. Now it gets tough, as the seeded teams begin play. Michigan is only the 13th seed however, so Colgate might be able to hang around.As you know, in soccer a pretty good team with a smart coach can always find a way to hang around, especially with cold weather slowing things down. Let's hope Colgate puts themselves in a situation where they can steal one.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 17, 2017 11:08:58 GMT -5
Good win - but not a huge upset. UMass ranked #30 in last coaches' poll. Both Colgate and Boston U had played them fairly evenly in the regular season. Now it gets tough, as the seeded teams begin play. Michigan is only the 13th seed however, so Colgate might be able to hang around.As you know, in soccer a pretty good team with a smart coach can always find a way to hang around, especially with cold weather slowing things down. Let's hope Colgate puts themselves in a situation where they can steal one. what I dislike most about playoff soccer the weaker team plays no offense, hoping for a scoreless tie in regulation and ot, and thus a shootout
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 17, 2017 11:19:44 GMT -5
Yeah, but you probably didn't like the 4-corner offense and wanted a shot clock in basketball too!
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Post by HC92 on Nov 17, 2017 20:00:55 GMT -5
We have a family friend who is a soccer recruit and recently visited. He was very impressed by the new facilities and the campus and community generally. HC is now much higher on his list than it was before the visit. Knowing that I managed to graduate isn’t helping the cause.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 17, 2017 20:08:37 GMT -5
Did you tell them you graduated summa ?
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