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Post by rgs318 on Sept 4, 2018 9:27:03 GMT -5
I will go with BC 42 - HC 10, followed by a win over Yale. Hope springs eternal.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 4, 2018 9:30:12 GMT -5
BC does not want a repeat of last week’s UMass debacle (48-7 at the half) so I suspect we’ll see an even earlier and deeper dive into the depth chart. Addazio will limit his throws following the first quarter...although he’s got great running backs that’ll at least work the clock. Chesney is far too smart to fling the ball around trying to catch up and will work the clock (and avoid, to the greatest extent possible, issues related to quarterback sacks). Hopefully we can learn something from playing this game that we can use playing our usual schedule but I am doubtful.
Yale is tough enough (if last year’s embarrassment was any indication), the BC game adds to that difficulty.
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Post by nhteamer on Sept 4, 2018 9:39:18 GMT -5
wrong
They smell Heisman hype with Dillon
Ya think Flutie's Heisman did them any good?
Dillon plays until he gets 250.
I hate BC.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 4, 2018 9:43:54 GMT -5
wrong They smell Heisman hype with Dillon Ya think Flutie's Heisman did them any good? Dillon plays until he gets 250. I hate BC. I don't think so. The last time Dillon touched the ball against UMass was on BC's last drive of the first half. He finished the game with 98 yards rushing.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 4, 2018 11:25:04 GMT -5
BC has an ACC game vs. Wake on the road on the following Thursday, so that might help with the substitution pattern that Addazio uses.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 4, 2018 12:02:08 GMT -5
Stole my thundah haze...that will definitely help our cause in not getting completely shellacked.
From different readings, it seems Addazio has a lot of respect for the history of the rivalry, seems to like Chesney etc....I don't picture them going all out and putting up 60+ or so. We are now the "annoying littlest kid brother" that BC knows it can beat in a variety of ways whereas UMass is seen as a potential threat and needs to be put in its place.
Sucks that it's such a glaring mismatch this year...hopefully by 2020 we may be able to give BC a game they know they can't take too lightly.
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Post by rickii on Sept 4, 2018 12:25:07 GMT -5
BC has an ACC game vs. Wake on the road on the following Thursday, so that might help with the substitution pattern that Addazio uses. This is a key point....short week of prep for a game ( @wake ) that is a huge swing game for both teams. Wake should have a easy time at home vs. Towson on Saturday.
Addazio will not play his top players or 1st teamers beyond halftime.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 4, 2018 12:51:20 GMT -5
Unless our passing offense is miraculously turned around in one week, we are going to struggle picking up first downs against a defense that held UMASS to 2.0 YPC on 33 rushing attempts last week.
The zone read RPOs, lateral passes, and routes that take forever to develop are going to get blown up this week.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 4, 2018 13:02:17 GMT -5
Addazio on HC vs BC history from yesterday:
Q. I know back there on media day you talked about how when you were in college playing, the BC-Holy Cross game was always a big event. Do you have any personal memories from that, things that stuck out? STEVE ADDAZIO: I do. I can't give you specifics, but I can remember this as clear as a bell. We're driving up with a bunch of my buddies. We're going to go up to L.L. Bean, but our tradition was we'd stop and see BC play Holy Cross. This particular game was at Holy Cross. I think it was the game where Doug Flutie -- where he went and got the Heisman right after that game, I think. I'm not 100 percent sure about that. But I remember going into the stadium at Holy Cross, and to me, it was like -- it may have been, may not have been, but to me it was this like huge big-time college football environment. It was a cold fall day and everything smelled of cigar smoke, the hot dogs, the whole bit. We'd go in there like wow, this is awesome, and go watch that game. It was big-time, Northeast New England college football. It was fun. You know, so we -- a couple of different occasions we did that. I do remember that like -- being in Holy Cross stadium and actually feeling the cold and the whole bit and the game and the big-time atmosphere, I remember that very vividly. Now, ask me about what year exactly that probably was -- what year did Doug get the Heisman? It was '80 what? '84? So it was pre-Doug then. This would have been like '81 maybe. This was probably '81. That's what I'd say. '80, '81, somewhere in there.
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Post by rickii on Sept 4, 2018 14:28:25 GMT -5
Addazio on HC vs BC history from yesterday: Q. I know back there on media day you talked about how when you were in college playing, the BC-Holy Cross game was always a big event. Do you have any personal memories from that, things that stuck out? STEVE ADDAZIO: I do. I can't give you specifics, but I can remember this as clear as a bell. We're driving up with a bunch of my buddies. We're going to go up to L.L. Bean, but our tradition was we'd stop and see BC play Holy Cross. This particular game was at Holy Cross. I think it was the game where Doug Flutie -- where he went and got the Heisman right after that game, I think. I'm not 100 percent sure about that. But I remember going into the stadium at Holy Cross, and to me, it was like -- it may have been, may not have been, but to me it was this like huge big-time college football environment. It was a cold fall day and everything smelled of cigar smoke, the hot dogs, the whole bit. We'd go in there like wow, this is awesome, and go watch that game. It was big-time, Northeast New England college football. It was fun. You know, so we -- a couple of different occasions we did that. I do remember that like -- being in Holy Cross stadium and actually feeling the cold and the whole bit and the game and the big-time atmosphere, I remember that very vividly. Now, ask me about what year exactly that probably was -- what year did Doug get the Heisman? It was '80 what? '84? So it was pre-Doug then. This would have been like '81 maybe. This was probably '81. That's what I'd say. '80, '81, somewhere in there. ?
Twas 1984 Flutie's SR year....Heisman....week before was his 'hail mary' in the old Orange Bowl vs Miami....25,000 at Fitton Field....mini brawl after coin toss at mid-field....1st half ended with Flutie getting sacked....think score was 17-10 BC at half.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 4, 2018 14:46:09 GMT -5
Mike Dooley sacked Flutie...great end to the half....Addazio talks about going a couple times I believe...the last BC game at Fitton prior to '84 was the very last really contested BC game in 1981....Flutie as a frosh eked out a 28-24 win for the Eagles...killah loss.
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Post by rickii on Sept 4, 2018 15:18:53 GMT -5
Mike Dooley sacked Flutie...great end to the half....Addazio talks about going a couple times I believe...the last BC game at Fitton prior to '84 was the very last really contested BC game in 1981....Flutie as a frosh eked out a 28-24 win for the Eagles...killah loss. Yea, was at that game too with my brother. Vividly recall turning to him in the 3rd quarter after watching this then little unknown BC QB slinging darts all over the field and saying...." We're in trouble with this kid for the next 3 years ".
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Post by jflare on Sept 4, 2018 19:01:55 GMT -5
Mike Dooley sacked Flutie...great end to the half....Addazio talks about going a couple times I believe...the last BC game at Fitton prior to '84 was the very last really contested BC game in 1981....Flutie as a frosh eked out a 28-24 win for the Eagles...killah loss. In that '81 game as I remember it we ended the game on the BC four yard line and could not score. TD there would have won the game. Is my memory correct or am I just getting old ?
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Post by hc87 on Sept 4, 2018 19:32:06 GMT -5
Pretty sure you're about right....I was actually sitting in the closed end zone with hs friends as we tried to punch it in there at the end.... Boisture was QB I believe, I think a couple incompletes ended it...tough one...we actually nearly beat BC 5 times in a row...'77 win, '78 win, '79 lost 13-10, '80 lost 27-26 and '81 lost 28-24...really hasn't been a game in doubt in the 2nd H since really
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Post by rickii on Sept 5, 2018 10:28:12 GMT -5
As most will remember, Brooks quickly cancelled the BC series within days of the '86 game. The abruptness of the terse announcement came as a shock to many outside of New England particularly to those like me who instead definitely favored a 3-year phase out or at least a planned celebrated final game. A somewhat debated irony is HC returned much of the '86 team in 1987 and wound up being a gloriously strong club while BC dropped down a bit. Could we have made a run at BC in '87 ? Maybe maybe not.
De-emphasizing the sport and the elimimination of athletic scholarships made playing BC beyond 1991 impossible....every one with any common sense knew that.
And now Brooks is passed, football scholarships are back, the LAC is built, we've finally hired a proven top young Head Coach and this Saturday I'm once again going to an HC-BC football game....AND I LOVE IT !
BEAT BC !
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Post by hc87 on Sept 5, 2018 11:25:04 GMT -5
As most will remember, Brooks quickly cancelled the BC series within days of the '86 game. The abruptness of the terse announcement came as a shock to many outside of New England particularly to those like me who instead definitely favored a 3-year phase out or at least a planned celebrated final game. A somewhat debated irony is HC returned much of the '86 team in 1987 and wound up being a gloriously strong club while BC dropped down a bit. Could we have made a run at BC in '87 ? Maybe maybe not. De-emphasizing the sport and the elimimination of athletic scholarships made playing BC beyond 1991 impossible....every one with any common sense knew that. And now Brooks is passed, football scholarships are back, the LAC is built, we've finally hired a proven top young Head Coach and this Saturday I'm once again going to an HC-BC football game....AND I LOVE IT ! BEAT BC !We'll nevah know, but I've always maintained that that '87 team would have beaten BC....at the very least it would have been the 1st truly competitive HC-BC game since 1981. The only common opponent that year was Army who we beat handily on the road and they barely got by at home. In typical HC luck, BC football dropped off after '86. They dropped to 5-6 in '87, 3-8 in '88 and 2-9 in '89. I'm not saying we would have won all these games as they were playing against far superior schedules then and we were phasing out scholarships but they probably would have been halfway decent games. Oh well....what's done is done.....as you said rickii, here's to bettah days ahead.
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Post by cmo on Sept 5, 2018 12:17:57 GMT -5
As most will remember, Brooks quickly cancelled the BC series within days of the '86 game. The abruptness of the terse announcement came as a shock to many outside of New England particularly to those like me who instead definitely favored a 3-year phase out or at least a planned celebrated final game. A somewhat debated irony is HC returned much of the '86 team in 1987 and wound up being a gloriously strong club while BC dropped down a bit. Could we have made a run at BC in '87 ? Maybe maybe not. De-emphasizing the sport and the elimimination of athletic scholarships made playing BC beyond 1991 impossible....every one with any common sense knew that. And now Brooks is passed, football scholarships are back, the LAC is built, we've finally hired a proven top young Head Coach and this Saturday I'm once again going to an HC-BC football game....AND I LOVE IT ! BEAT BC !Did the thought of maybe beating BC in '87 push Brooks to end the series immediately?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 5, 2018 15:20:17 GMT -5
No
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Sept 5, 2018 16:44:29 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 5, 2018 17:28:59 GMT -5
Unless our passing offense is miraculously turned around in one week, we are going to struggle picking up first downs against a defense that held UMASS to 2.0 YPC on 33 rushing attempts last week. The zone read RPOs, lateral passes, and routes that take forever to develop are going to get blown up this week. Agreed. Aside from the extremely wide talent gap, we do not match up well on top of that. Our run-first offense will struggle to gain anything. And our defense appeared to really put it together in the second half against Colgate but stopping Dillon isn't going to happen. My prediction is we score zero points against BC's first team defense. I am looking forward to this game as a learning experience for a young, hungry group under Chesney and as an opportunity for many of us younger alumni to tailgate and listen to some war stories from many of those who played or attended previous games in the series. Definitely will not miss a play of this game, regardless of the score. Will be in stands until the end. My wish is just to see ONE Holy Cross touchdown. This BC team is legit -- they may be back to contending for Top 25 rankings for the first time since the O'Brien / Jagodzinski years when the Eagles not only qualified for but WON eight or nine straight bowl games.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 5, 2018 17:38:34 GMT -5
Hard to believe it but bc did win 8 bowl Games in a row but equilibrium has been restored with bc losing 6 of last 7
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 5, 2018 17:44:12 GMT -5
Hard to believe it but bc did win 8 bowl Games in a row but equilibrium has been restored with bc losing 6 of last 7 I was actually at the game when their streak ended against Vanderbilt in the 2008 Music City Bowl. My sister was a freshman at Vanderbilt at the time. Great defensive battle that BC probably should have ended up winning, Commodores got the lion's share of home cooking. But, hey it was their first bowl appearance since 1982.
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Post by hc80 on Sept 5, 2018 18:52:01 GMT -5
I view this game as a prelude to October 2020. Game 2 of the contract. Yes, we will lose this week - and BC has a game on Thursday- so the mercy rule with the third team will be in our play. Give coach 2 years - then we see where we are! I look forward to seeing more purple Than a game at Fitton!! Beat BC
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Post by hcpride on Sept 5, 2018 19:23:46 GMT -5
As most will remember, Brooks quickly cancelled the BC series within days of the '86 game. The abruptness of the terse announcement came as a shock to many outside of New England particularly to those like me who instead definitely favored a 3-year phase out or at least a planned celebrated final game. A somewhat debated irony is HC returned much of the '86 team in 1987 and wound up being a gloriously strong club while BC dropped down a bit. Could we have made a run at BC in '87 ? Maybe maybe not. De-emphasizing the sport and the elimimination of athletic scholarships made playing BC beyond 1991 impossible....every one with any common sense knew that. And now Brooks is passed, football scholarships are back, the LAC is built, we've finally hired a proven top young Head Coach and this Saturday I'm once again going to an HC-BC football game....AND I LOVE IT ! BEAT BC !We'll nevah know, but I've always maintained that that '87 team would have beaten BC....at the very least it would have been the 1st truly competitive HC-BC game since 1981. The only common opponent that year was Army who we beat handily on the road and they barely got by at home. The previous year BC only beat West Point by 7 (we beat Army by 3) ...and blew our undefeated 1986 team off the field to win by 30 (final score was 56-26). In 1987 BC lost to 9th ranked Notre Dame (in South Bend) by just 7 and to USC (In LA) by just 6. They defeated Pitt, Temple, Army, TCU and 15th-ranked Tennessee. Gotta be honest, I'm thinking it would have been another lopsided loss for us and our 9th consecutive loss to BC. (It is true that in 1987 we beat Army by 10 and BC beat Army by 5.)
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Post by hc87 on Sept 5, 2018 19:26:15 GMT -5
The '87 team was not going to be blown out by anyone that year....we were up 27-7 at half and 34-10 late in the Army game.... very deceptive 34-24 final score.
It would have been a very good game at the very least.
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