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Post by gerry on Dec 23, 2018 9:30:22 GMT -5
Tickets were $2? I got there early (shortly after 11:00) and tge young woman at the window charged me $12. I guess she wasn't advised of the discounted price prior to my arrival. Or were the $2 tickets just for the top level?
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Post by HC92 on Dec 23, 2018 9:34:21 GMT -5
Tickets were $2? I got there early (shortly after 11:00) and tge young woman at the window charged me $12. I guess she wasn't advised of the discounted price prior to my arrival. Or were the $2 tickets just for the top level? General admission was $2. Reserved seats were regular price.
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Post by trimster on Dec 23, 2018 9:51:12 GMT -5
Tickets were $2? I got there early (shortly after 11:00) and tge young woman at the window charged me $12. I guess she wasn't advised of the discounted price prior to my arrival. Or were the $2 tickets just for the top level? General admission was $2. Reserved seats were regular price. I guess $12.00 is about what I'd expect to pay for a lower level seat to an HC men's game. (I just had the thought if we aren't in the entertainment business, why charge at all for admission). I thought $18.00 for an end zone seat to an HC football game last fall, was way too much.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 23, 2018 9:59:24 GMT -5
It's real simple: if you feel seats cost too much - then don't go.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 23, 2018 10:00:02 GMT -5
Been a season ticket holder forever, and I don’t recall the last time I used the concession stand. I did have a couple chilli dogs with the guy who set up a stand in a lobby a few years ago; bring him back! I am spoiled, as about half way up on my 90 mile ride is Rein’s deli in Vernon, whom I call when I hit Hartford, and my pastrami Rueben fresser is ready when I arrive. It’s not cheap, but an awfully good sandwich! I stopped at Rein’s on my way up on Thursday. That was our regular stop on our way up or back when we’d go up to games when I in high school. That was so long ago that the place was across the street from where it is now. Stopped there for lunch several years ago more or less on a whim...long line which they knew how to handle. Reminded me of Yogi Berra: "The place is so popular no one goes there any more".
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 23, 2018 10:01:03 GMT -5
hcnation--you are correct--I re-watched the second half late last night and can confirm.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 23, 2018 10:03:12 GMT -5
Sounds like ol’ Nate was so busy getting HC back into the national consciousness that he didn’t have time to think about the gameday experience (other than hiring the Blackwater RSIG security forces, of course).
Now that all of our winning ways have been restored under Nate’s leadership and we are back in the national consciousness, hopefully the next guy will have a little extra time to think about the fans and the gameday experience.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 23, 2018 10:08:06 GMT -5
I actually think a couple of excerpts from the board on this specific topic (concessions) will be productive. I know I will be sending one.
Terrible, terrible excuse, but do you think they thought the crowd would be worse yesterday than it was? It wasn't great, they never are it seems; but more than I was figuring...I guess because Siena broke the typical Ivy/Patriot/MAAC/AE mold and actually brought a few fans.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 23, 2018 10:09:09 GMT -5
I am guessing they knew the students would not be on campus and grossly underestimated the size of the crowd.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 23, 2018 10:11:36 GMT -5
FADNP has moved on. When, if ever, will current problems stop being blamed on him...or is that so ingrained it is a hard habit to break? I think Ron Perry and Dick Regan are to blame. After all, where were they yesterday?
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Post by DiMarz on Dec 23, 2018 10:16:29 GMT -5
Tickets were $2? I got there early (shortly after 11:00) and tge young woman at the window charged me $12. I guess she wasn't advised of the discounted price prior to my arrival. Or were the $2 tickets just for the top level? General admission, which is top level I think, were 2 dollars
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Post by purple71 on Dec 23, 2018 10:19:51 GMT -5
Venues and concession stands baffle me. In most places the venue bids out the concession business, and after the concessionaire pays for the rights to sell food and drinks it overcharges for everything . This is the "captive audience model". Don't some MLB stadia have $8.00 or $9.00 beers? Maybe higher in some places. In such situations I always think: you can sell me one beer at $9.00 or 4 at $5.00 each. You'll make more $$$ at $5.00. Some minor league baseball parks understand this and charge reasonable prices for good food. Now on to Hart: I have not been there in decades but I'm getting a picture of the situation. How much money can HC make on concessions? Here's what I'd do: sell high quality hot dogs, burger, pizza, popcorn with a minimal markup, e.g. $1.95 for a hot dog. You'll make little profit there, but then again the college is not in existence to generate a profit. Charge McDonald's prices for soft drinks and you'll still make a fortune, rather than sell at the typical huge stadium margin. Sell beer at tavern prices and you'll make plenty of profit there. You'll likely generate greater profit under this strategy than with the gouge-em method and you'll have much happier fans. The typical basketball fan with a few kids (I'm talking middle class, not a man of wealth like 92) will feel he's getting a good value for a great experience and he'll want to take the kids. You'll build attendance that way. I've not been to Augusta National but friends who have been there tell me that there is no gouging--a Coke is like $1.00 and a pimiento cheese sandwich $1.50--the club probably figures that "we're making tens of millions of $$$ on the Masters broadcast rights and tickets, we don't need to fleece people at the concession stand From my years on the County Legislature, I can explain pricing in some places, particularly municipal areas. In order to try and put some of the expense on the shoulders who use the facility as opposed to the general property tax payer, we simply imposed a 39% surtax on the items sold at the concession stands. That's why, in Albany, it ain't cheap. However, it does pass some of the cost of the facility on to the users. Of course, this model wouldn't work at the Hart as the small revenue produced wouldn't justify the accounting expense. I don't know who would bid on the Hart concession, given the average crowd. In fairness, a game during Christmas break isn't a fair barometer of performance in this regard. In the future, I will allow sufficient time to have lunch at the Miss Worcester, oh #@*&$~!, it closed!!!
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Post by trimster on Dec 23, 2018 10:27:01 GMT -5
It's real simple: if you feel seats cost too much - then don't go. Good point. It appears most of Worcester has adopted that feeling when it comes to HC athletics.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 23, 2018 10:29:12 GMT -5
Venues and concession stands baffle me. In most places the venue bids out the concession business, and after the concessionaire pays for the rights to sell food and drinks it overcharges for everything . This is the "captive audience model". Don't some MLB stadia have $8.00 or $9.00 beers? Maybe higher in some places. In such situations I always think: you can sell me one beer at $9.00 or 4 at $5.00 each. You'll make more $$$ at $5.00. Some minor league baseball parks understand this and charge reasonable prices for good food. Now on to Hart: I have not been there in decades but I'm getting a picture of the situation. How much money can HC make on concessions? Here's what I'd do: sell high quality hot dogs, burger, pizza, popcorn with a minimal markup, e.g. $1.95 for a hot dog. You'll make little profit there, but then again the college is not in existence to generate a profit. Charge McDonald's prices for soft drinks and you'll still make a fortune, rather than sell at the typical huge stadium margin. Sell beer at tavern prices and you'll make plenty of profit there. You'll likely generate greater profit under this strategy than with the gouge-em method and you'll have much happier fans. The typical basketball fan with a few kids (I'm talking middle class, not a man of wealth like 92) will feel he's getting a good value for a great experience and he'll want to take the kids. You'll build attendance that way. I've not been to Augusta National but friends who have been there tell me that there is no gouging--a Coke is like $1.00 and a pimiento cheese sandwich $1.50--the club probably figures that "we're making tens of millions of $$$ on the Masters broadcast rights and tickets, we don't need to fleece people at the concession stand From my years on the County Legislature, I can explain pricing in some places, particularly municipal areas. In order to try and put some of the expense on the shoulders who use the facility as opposed to the general property tax payer, we simply imposed a 39% surtax on the items sold at the concession stands. That's why, in Albany, it ain't cheap. However, it does pass some of the cost of the facility on to the users. Of course, this model wouldn't work at the Hart as the small revenue produced wouldn't justify the accounting expense. I don't know who would bid on the Hart concession, given the average crowd. In fairness, a game during Christmas break isn't a fair barometer of performance in this regard. In the future, I will allow sufficient time to have lunch at the Miss Worcester, oh #@*&$~!, it closed!!!? Miss Worc isn't closed.
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Post by gerry on Dec 23, 2018 10:32:36 GMT -5
So what is General Admission? I thought there were two tickets: the bleacher seats with no backs and the chairbacks up above. Is General Admission the seats with no backs down low, or are they the narrow section of seats up top behind the chairbacks? I'm not worried about the $10...just curious.
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Post by gerry on Dec 23, 2018 10:33:25 GMT -5
Thanks DiMarz. Just saw your reply.
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Post by joe on Dec 23, 2018 10:39:56 GMT -5
Tickets were $2? I got there early (shortly after 11:00) and tge young woman at the window charged me $12. I guess she wasn't advised of the discounted price prior to my arrival. Or were the $2 tickets just for the top level? General admission, which is top level I think, were 2 dollars People bought and moved down to the empties I think. Miss Worcester is a crap shoot. Can be an awfully long experience for a diner, if busy. You really have to leave a ton of time. We once ate next to the officials, before a football game. Now that’s getting there early! Is George’s Green Island still around?
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Post by timholycross on Dec 23, 2018 10:46:59 GMT -5
So what is General Admission? I thought there were two tickets: the bleacher seats with no backs and the chairbacks up above. Is General Admission the seats with no backs down low, or are they the narrow section of seats up top behind the chairbacks? I'm not worried about the $10...just curious. It's what used to be the blues....which i see someone else answered. What was strange about yesterday was that at least at 12:15 and later (we got there late because the Mass Pike had an unusual traffic jam) absolutely no one was checking what seats you were in. We bought chairs but didn't like where they were (little kids sitting above where we were going to be kicking the FRONTS of the chairs below them, no thank you; and a big guy sitting below us that made it tough to see) so we saw some other chairs and moved to them. The reason I mention this is that if someone paid the $2 it would have been very easy to move to the chairs or the lower bleachers. Question: Do the $25 chairs go on sale for every game or are all of them already spoken for? Given that there are so few I wouldn't be surprised if they were all sold; although they most certainly were not all being sat in.
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Post by lou on Dec 23, 2018 10:51:52 GMT -5
You can see which chairbacks are available online when looking for tickets. Maybe half are season tickets sold
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 23, 2018 10:53:32 GMT -5
joe: George's is still open and thriving
tim: no one ever checks your seat- sit wherever you want
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 23, 2018 11:15:57 GMT -5
Went with two friends, got the tickets for 2 dollars each. Concessions was a major failure as stated above. Was able to get Togo's autograph and for lunch we went to our usual spot after HC games Coney Island.
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Post by Sader Fan on Dec 23, 2018 11:32:25 GMT -5
Togo agreed about concession stand. Saw him with friends/family immediately after game at Wendy’s!
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Post by cmo on Dec 23, 2018 11:56:37 GMT -5
It's real simple: if you feel seats cost too much - then don't go. I hope that’s not HC’s response
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 23, 2018 12:01:21 GMT -5
Telegram “Siena got the ball back with 23 seconds left. Holy Cross had a couple fouls to give and, up three, decided to send freshman guard Jalen Pickett to the line for a one-and-one with 6.7 seconds on the clock. Pickett missed the first and Butler came down with the rebound.” I remember the ending as -After Pickett missed the free throw , Siena grabbed the long rebound, then Pickett missed a three witn Butler grabbing board with clock going to zero. Agree
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 23, 2018 12:01:59 GMT -5
Liked the idea of the bus for Siena.
Wonder if it would draw interest if HC did it? for Basketball and Football
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