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Post by hcpride on Mar 7, 2019 7:26:48 GMT -5
If a serious basketball fan, totally unfamiliar with the Patriot League, watched Jehyve tonight and overheard that he was a 2nd team All League selection, he’d say “That must be a real good league!” I don't know. A serious fan watching the game might take a look at the talent on the court and the seedings of the two sub-.500 (HC and Laffy) teams and figure JF was by far the best inside player (offense and defense) on either team. A serious fan would certainly realize he was the key to our 5-point victory over (now) 10-20 Lafayette.
It is true that Laffy has absolutely woeful inside D and inside O is JF's offensive strength. The nightmare scenario is we look like Laffy next year with JF gone.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2019 7:34:51 GMT -5
If a serious basketball fan, totally unfamiliar with the Patriot League, watched Jehyve tonight and overheard that he was a 2nd team All League selection, he’d say “That must be a real good league!” I don't know. A serious fan watching the game might take a look at the talent on the court and the seedings of the two sub-.500 (HC and Laffy) teams and figure JF was by far the best inside player (offense and defense) on either team. A serious fan would certainly realize he was the key to our 5-point victory over (now) 10-20 Lafayette.
It is true that Laffy has absolutely woeful inside D and inside O is JF's offensive strength. The nightmare scenario is we look like Laffy next year with JF gone.
We certainly will miss Jehyve greatly. But Neither Grandy nor Caleb look like Laffy players, now or next year. i also believe that neither Wade nor Lowder will either
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 7, 2019 7:51:13 GMT -5
I don't know. A serious fan watching the game might take a look at the talent on the court and the seedings of the two sub-.500 (HC and Laffy) teams and figure JF was by far the best inside player (offense and defense) on either team. A serious fan would certainly realize he was the key to our 5-point victory over (now) 10-20 Lafayette.
It is true that Laffy has absolutely woeful inside D and inside O is JF's offensive strength. The nightmare scenario is we look like Laffy next year with JF gone.
We certainly miss Jehyve greatly. But Neither Grandy nor Caleb look like Laffy players, now or next year. i also believe that neither Wade nor Lowder will either I’m glad that we will likely be more talented than 9-20 Lafayette next year. However, none of the guys you mentioned can play in the paint. We just gave up 74 points to Lafayette WITH Floyd greatly disrupting everything in or near the paint on defense. It’s likely 80+ without him in there and, again, that’s a 9-20 team.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 7, 2019 8:23:46 GMT -5
I don't know. A serious fan watching the game might take a look at the talent on the court and the seedings of the two sub-.500 (HC and Laffy) teams and figure JF was by far the best inside player (offense and defense) on either team. A serious fan would certainly realize he was the key to our 5-point victory over (now) 10-20 Lafayette.
It is true that Laffy has absolutely woeful inside D and inside O is JF's offensive strength. The nightmare scenario is we look like Laffy next year with JF gone.
We certainly miss Jehyve greatly. But Neither Grandy nor Caleb look like Laffy players, now or next year. i also believe that neither Wade nor Lowder will either
My point is that JF's departure means we are losing an enormous part (all?) of our inside game (O and D). Yes, we have some OK PL-level (non-inside) starters returning.
Laffy's top two scorers (and 6 of their top 7 BTW) are back next year. And we split with Laffy in the regular season and won by 5 in the playoffs.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2019 8:47:44 GMT -5
Good points.
Lest we forget we finished dead last in this league and are losing far and away our best player.
Regardless of who we are losing and who we are bringing back, I maintain it doesn’t really matter who is on this roster if Carmody doesn’t give a hoot about rebounding on either end. On that note though, just imagine what our rebounding and inside game looks like without Floyd.
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 7, 2019 9:04:44 GMT -5
Listen I love Floyd but there is no way his game plays at the next level. Even at the next level of college ball Floyd did little against Michigan ,Providence or Harvard as they had bigs who were his equal or better and I don't think the bigs on any of those teams are NBA material. I can't think of anyone in the NBA who can't shoot from the perimeter. Even guys like Baynes and Theis for the Celtics shoot threes. He reminds me of a poor mans Dennis Rodman who couldn't shoot a lick but had elite athleticism that made him a great rebounder and defender. At this point JF hasn't shown himself to be a great rebounder and while a great off the ball defender he wouldn't be able to guard any position on the floor as could Rodman. As far as developing a perimeter game I would have thought if it was possible it would have been done by now. That being said he's been an exciting player to watch for the last four years and will be difficult to replace. do you think he can play for these teams?
I'm not familiar with most of the NBA but how about Ben Simmons? re Celtics' Smart [got his big contract & then became a decent shooter] & Williams... I would like hear Heinshon's opinion on JF Complementing his great athleticism is JF's temperament... I recall CBC commenting publicly in his and JF's first year that '...he is raw but he listens'... I think CBC would now add '... and learns'. Perhaps some of his development has been sacrificed for the team but what's wrong with a team player? according to an AP article in Tuesday Cape Cod Times [couldn't find a link] the NBA and colleges are no longer looking for bigs to anchor the middle but for ones that can play in space... presumably that means bigs with good hands who dribble as well as shoot the ball... JF is a great a athlete with a great temperament who learns but with limited opportunity to play against top competition
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Post by classof83 on Mar 7, 2019 9:07:46 GMT -5
Don't we have another scholarship to give for next year?
If we get a transfer big from a program where a coach leaves, would that make them eligible right away?
I know, a big if .....
Let's hope Verbeek hits the weight room this summer - and drinks a lot pf protein shakes
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Post by trimster on Mar 7, 2019 9:23:39 GMT -5
Yes we do but other than the kid from Aspire Academy, I have read next to nothing here about any bigs we are interested in. There is a kid from Kansa or Missouri who is playing prep ball in NE who has been mentioned once or twice. I think he is a slow footed 6' 9" kid whose forte is shooting the 3. We already have several of those. As has been pointed out many times here, Floyd wouldn't haven been on HC's radar coming out of HS. Kind of sad.
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Post by Tom on Mar 7, 2019 10:58:49 GMT -5
Don't we have another scholarship to give for next year? If we get a transfer big from a program where a coach leaves, would that make them eligible right away? I know, a big if ..... Let's hope Verbeek hits the weight room this summer - and drinks a lot pf protein shakes There was a rumor on this board (so it must be true) that one of the freshmen walk-ons was promised a scholarship going forward. If we are only dealing with facts, there are 3 signed LOI's for the class of 2023 and 4 graduating seniors this year (counting Perkins) so there is a scholarship out there.
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Post by possum on Mar 8, 2019 7:57:55 GMT -5
83 do I think JF could play for a Power 5 program, first off those programs would never have recruited a 6-8 player who has no offensive game from more than 3 feet from the basket, that being said if he was on one of these teams with his current skill set I think he could be a bit player but not an integral part if the team. As far as Simmons is concerned while it's true he has no outside shot he's a 6'10 point guard who can run a team rebounds in the NBA at 9 per game and has the ball handling skills to take anyone to the rim, if he had a decent outside shot he'd be a generational player don't think JF is close to having Simmons skills. Smart while not a great shooter hits 30+ % from the perimeter and brings a number of intangibles to the table not the least of which is his ability to defend against a number of positions on the floor something I don't think JF can do. At this point Williams may be a better example although he's 6'10 and does have a competent 10-12' jump shot something JF does not possess. JF has worked very hard making himself into a very good mid major player but I don't think his defense and rebounding would be enough to offset his offensive deficiencies at the next level. Hope I'm wrong and someday we do see him in the NBA.
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Post by lou on Mar 8, 2019 8:04:13 GMT -5
I hope Jehyve has a terrific career at the next level internationally. Maybe not as much $, but a lot more fun imo.
Heard Husek had 7 3s and 36 points in a game last week in Germany
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Post by hchoops on Mar 8, 2019 13:52:07 GMT -5
I hope Jehyve has a terrific career at the next level internationally. Maybe not as much $, but a lot more fun imo. Heard Husek had 7 3s and 36 points in a game last week in Germany JF May surprise and play in the G league, but Europe, or elsewhere is more likely at least for a year or two
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Post by efg72 on Mar 8, 2019 18:49:27 GMT -5
I hope Jehyve has a terrific career at the next level internationally. Maybe not as much $, but a lot more fun imo. Heard Husek had 7 3s and 36 points in a game last week in Germany JF May surprise and play in the G league, but Europe, or elsewhere is more likely at least for a year or two Agree but Europe might be the better option to develop, make money and have an enjoyable experience for a few years
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Post by hchoops on Mar 8, 2019 20:15:01 GMT -5
True, but if he gets to play with a summer NBA team, the G league may provide an easier route to the NBA
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Post by breezy on Mar 19, 2019 18:08:41 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 19, 2019 19:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 25, 2019 13:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2019 14:20:25 GMT -5
Better not sub for Jehyve
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Post by HC92 on Mar 25, 2019 14:45:07 GMT -5
Shots inside the arc count for 1 point. Shots outside the arc count for two points. So, you want really good outside shooters and a rebounder. First team to 21 wins.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 25, 2019 14:50:15 GMT -5
224 threes made this season among Leufroy, Mackenzie and Tejada.
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 25, 2019 15:01:00 GMT -5
winner's out?
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Post by HC92 on Mar 25, 2019 15:58:45 GMT -5
No. The non-scoring team inbounds the ball from right under the hoop and must get it beyond the arc before they can score. There’s also a 12-second shot clock.
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 25, 2019 17:40:02 GMT -5
No. The non-scoring team inbounds the ball from right under the hoop and must get it beyond the arc before they can score. There’s also a 12-second shot clock. years ago before Hoosiers, my brother who grew up playing bball in NJ, was a bball coach in rural Iowa, his first job, ... in his gym class they played 3 on 3 and the ball went over to the none scoring team... he observed that the bball team didn't rebound very well; just content to get the ball back after a score; the team's high scorer wouldn't rebound or play D... so he change 3 on 3 to winner's out and cut the high scorer... the bball team went from the doormat in the league to 2nd place
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Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2019 18:14:57 GMT -5
In the Brooklyn schoolyards it was always winners’ out. I was shocked when I visited my cousins in the Jersey suburbs to discover a very non competitive losers’ out
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Post by hchoops on Apr 3, 2019 18:07:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the 3 on 3 starts ?
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