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Post by DiMarz on Aug 16, 2019 20:15:45 GMT -5
Does having RJ on the staff have any impact on Grandy staying/leaving? Will RJ's experience at HC and what he accomplished with his 2 masters show Grandy what he can expect with an HC degree???
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Post by hchoops on Aug 16, 2019 20:21:13 GMT -5
Does having RJ on the staff have any impact on Grandy staying/leaving? Will RJ's experience at HC and what he accomplished with his 2 masters show Grandy what he can expect with an HC degree??? If it had any impact, Grandison would be in Worcester today, not Champaign
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Post by efg72 on Aug 16, 2019 20:23:19 GMT -5
Does having RJ on the staff have any impact on Grandy staying/leaving? Will RJ's experience at HC and what he accomplished with his 2 masters show Grandy what he can expect with an HC degree??? If it had any impact, Grandison would be in Worcester today, not Champaign Now that response was perfect for a Friday night
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Post by rickii on Aug 17, 2019 8:01:39 GMT -5
Does having RJ on the staff have any impact on Grandy staying/leaving? Will RJ's experience at HC and what he accomplished with his 2 masters show Grandy what he can expect with an HC degree??? IF he lands at Illinois, he can get a Masters should he choose to do so. The post grad avenues are extensive and varied. Also, Illinois U has an excellent organized placement/advisory unit.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 17, 2019 8:12:03 GMT -5
I coached a player, Mike Davis ‘11, who played for Illinois and loved the school. He has played in Europe and now in the G league. Grad school was not part of his earlier plans
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 17, 2019 10:21:28 GMT -5
The ability of accomplished, but not all-league accomplished, rising juniors to trade their skills for three years of University full scholarship in return for two years of playing is one more obstacle for a high academic small undergraduate-only liberal arts college trying to re-establish itself as a significant D-1 basketball school.
But even "Little Three" member Wesleyan had the same issue this year. It puts schools like HC in the glorified Juco category if players want to use their skills as an asset on the open market and get the best return they can for them. Blame the high cost of graduate school or any other factor in a changing world, but a four year degree from a college like HC or Wesleyan and a lifetime spot on an all time list for scoring, rebounds, assists, etc. is attractive, too.
I think Coach Nelson is up to the task of competing in today's reality.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 17, 2019 10:33:47 GMT -5
Interesting that one of the new Illini transfers comes from Reilly’s father’s team and the other comes from Reilly’s new team. Yes, I am assuming Grandison will wind up at Illinois.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 17, 2019 11:38:57 GMT -5
The ability of accomplished, but not all-league accomplished, rising juniors to trade their skills for three years of University full scholarship in return for two years of playing is one more obstacle for a high academic small undergraduate-only liberal arts college trying to re-establish itself as a significant D-1 basketball school. But even "Little Three" member Wesleyan had the same issue this year. It puts schools like HC in the glorified Juco category if players want to use their skills as an asset on the open market and get the best return they can for them. Blame the high cost of graduate school or any other factor in a changing world, but a four year degree from a college like HC or Wesleyan and a lifetime spot on an all time list for scoring, rebounds, assists, etc. is attractive, too. I think Coach Nelson is up to the task of competing in today's reality. I agree. As a point guard or front court big man he'd have to be absolutely tearing up the PL to nab a transfer slot on a Big Ten roster. But as a shooting guard with good height/length (even by Big Ten standards), sufficient quickness for his position, and a pretty nice shooting touch (which can be improved while sitting for a year) he should/may find a market. He and his family may not see a down side in getting an Illinois undergraduate (and perhaps graduate) diploma instead of a Holy Cross undergraduate diploma. Not to mention possible national exposure. Nobody can blame him for looking out for his best interests (in the same way countless schools and coaches look out for their own best interests). The good news, in a way, is that HC is unlikely to land the sort of point guard or big man in the near future that subsequently departs for a P5 university. (Of course, as in the Green case, there may be other issues at work regarding transfers to basketball peers or DII/DIII)
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Post by efg72 on Aug 17, 2019 13:02:54 GMT -5
Don’t care if he stays or goes, but resolution would be great for him, teammates, coaches and fans
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 17, 2019 13:54:26 GMT -5
Total cost of one year at University of Illinois Law School for a non-Illinois resident: $68,163.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 17, 2019 14:58:14 GMT -5
Total cost of one year at University of Illinois Law School for a non-Illinois resident: $68,163. I have never heard of a law or dental school being part of a grad deal. much more likely some 1 year Master’s program. Much cheaper.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 17, 2019 15:30:48 GMT -5
Total cost of one year at University of Illinois Law School for a non-Illinois resident: $68,163. I have never heard of a law or dental school being part of a grad deal. much more likely some 1 year Master’s program. Much cheaper. Yes, definitely not a law school scholarship.
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Post by southernsader on Aug 17, 2019 16:22:13 GMT -5
The ability of accomplished, but not all-league accomplished, rising juniors to trade their skills for three years of University full scholarship in return for two years of playing is one more obstacle for a high academic small undergraduate-only liberal arts college trying to re-establish itself as a significant D-1 basketball school. But even "Little Three" member Wesleyan had the same issue this year. It puts schools like HC in the glorified Juco category if players want to use their skills as an asset on the open market and get the best return they can for them. Blame the high cost of graduate school or any other factor in a changing world, but a four year degree from a college like HC or Wesleyan and a lifetime spot on an all time list for scoring, rebounds, assists, etc. is attractive, too. I think Coach Nelson is up to the task of competing in today's reality. I agree. As a point guard or front court big man he'd have to be absolutely tearing up the PL to nab a transfer slot on a Big Ten roster. But as a shooting guard with good height/length (even by Big Ten standards), sufficient quickness for his position, and a pretty nice shooting touch (which can be improved while sitting for a year) he should/may find a market. He and his family may not see a down side in getting an Illinois undergraduate (and perhaps graduate) diploma instead of a Holy Cross undergraduate diploma. Not to mention possible national exposure. Nobody can blame him for looking out for his best interests (in the same way countless schools and coaches look out for their own best interests). The good news, in a way, is that HC is unlikely to land the sort of point guard or big man in the near future that subsequently departs for a P5 university. (Of course, as in the Green case, there may be other issues at work regarding transfers to basketball peers or DII/DIII)
Um, Hello? That's because there isn't one. I yield to no one in my purple pride, but let's be real.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 17, 2019 16:48:18 GMT -5
The last several years have presented way too much off the court drama. I am fatigued. ☹️
Looking forward to the new team gelling, being focused on basketball and winning the PL.
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Post by possum on Aug 17, 2019 16:56:22 GMT -5
If I was a player on the team I would not want him back at this point.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 17, 2019 17:00:59 GMT -5
If I was a player on the team I would not want him back at this point. The chances of him coming back are so small that it’s really not worth worrying about.
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Post by crossbball13 on Aug 17, 2019 19:35:34 GMT -5
I agree. As a point guard or front court big man he'd have to be absolutely tearing up the PL to nab a transfer slot on a Big Ten roster. But as a shooting guard with good height/length (even by Big Ten standards), sufficient quickness for his position, and a pretty nice shooting touch (which can be improved while sitting for a year) he should/may find a market. He and his family may not see a down side in getting an Illinois undergraduate (and perhaps graduate) diploma instead of a Holy Cross undergraduate diploma. Not to mention possible national exposure. Nobody can blame him for looking out for his best interests (in the same way countless schools and coaches look out for their own best interests). The good news, in a way, is that HC is unlikely to land the sort of point guard or big man in the near future that subsequently departs for a P5 university. (Of course, as in the Green case, there may be other issues at work regarding transfers to basketball peers or DII/DIII)
Um, Hello? That's because there isn't one. I yield to no one in my purple pride, but let's be real.Not going to argue this here but you’re off. 2 schools can’t be much more different— question to pose to jacob is “are you sure you know what you want?”. That being said, he should not be allowed back (not that he’s coming back— he already said his goodbyes).
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 17, 2019 20:34:45 GMT -5
Total cost of one year at University of Illinois Law School for a non-Illinois resident: $68,163. I have never heard of a law or dental school being part of a grad deal. much more likely some 1 year Master’s program. Much cheaper. I went to the Illinois website and just picked the law school tuition because I figured it would be expensive. It makes sense the school would offer closer to the minimum expense to meet NCAA rules that the player be enrolled.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 17, 2019 21:22:24 GMT -5
Who knows whether or not Grandison and/or Green would have stayed if Carmody remained as head coach, but we are seeing just how bad a coach Carmody was for this program now.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 17, 2019 22:01:44 GMT -5
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Post by southernsader on Aug 17, 2019 23:35:50 GMT -5
I'm not "off", crossball. Of course the schools are completely different. However, neither is materially more "prestigious" than the other.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 17, 2019 23:54:29 GMT -5
Disagree on that one
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Post by bison137 on Aug 18, 2019 0:00:00 GMT -5
I have never heard of a law or dental school being part of a grad deal. much more likely some 1 year Master’s program. Much cheaper. I went to the Illinois website and just picked the law school tuition because I figured it would be expensive. It makes sense the school would offer closer to the minimum expense to meet NCAA rules that the player be enrolled. The one-year cost isn't even the question. A player couldn't play D1 basketball and attend law school simultaneously. Additionally he would have to attend for at least four years in total to complete a law degree.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 18, 2019 0:00:00 GMT -5
Just can't wait for the nightly updates and box score recaps from the Fightining Illini or the Spartans that we'll be subject to from those who have nothing better to do.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 18, 2019 0:06:04 GMT -5
Just can't wait for the nightly updates and box score recaps from the Fightining Illini or the Spartans that we'll be subject to from those who have nothing better to do. Then are you ready for the reports on Mitch Hahn's dominating the Omaha YMCA adult league?
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