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Post by lou on Dec 30, 2019 15:51:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure the intent was less volume for arena music (good idea for every game), dimming lights during halftime, at least appeared that way on TV, and maybe lowering PA volume. Hard to believe the 92 clan could have made that much of a difference...especially since they specialize in signs
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Post by Tom on Dec 30, 2019 15:56:48 GMT -5
Well my bad. I did not visit the Siena website or read the local Albany paper. I probably read the post here, but didn't remember it.
I don't think it's reasonable to assume that visiting fans should just know this stuff. Not a big deal, but don't go on social media to complain people aren't following special etiquette rules when you don't explain them '
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 30, 2019 16:24:01 GMT -5
So was this a ban on cheering like "Silent Night" but to promote Autism Awareness?
I am sure that those who broke the silence were probably unaware of what was going on.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 30, 2019 16:28:32 GMT -5
Agree...and I have a great nephew with mild autism.
Pretty sure I heard plenty of Siena fans cheering.
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Post by CHC8485 on Dec 30, 2019 16:29:11 GMT -5
Don't believe the event was to promote autism awareness per se, just to make the game friendly to families with children on the autism spectrum.
And I get it. It's very difficult - often impossible - for kids on the spectrum to be in loud and visually stimulating environments. But it's an athletic event. Fans cheers. Turn down the volume, limit the light show, etc. Ask fans to cheer quietly??? Not so sure.
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Post by unhfan on Dec 30, 2019 16:35:06 GMT -5
Will 92 and Co. be allowed back at the TUC? Ya that could have been team 92 For those that weren't at the game, supposedly the lights were dimmer than normal and the PA volume was turned down lower than normal as part of an Autism Awareness Game Seriously, although well intentioned, not really a great promotion. I'm sure all the Siena season ticket holders were on top of it. I think there was one announcement about it before the game. Team 92 might not have been seated at that point. I heard the kids cheering especially when HC got it to within 4 with about 3 minutes to go. I didn't think anything about it, and quite frankly forgot all about the promotion until I saw the post here. If you weren't seated and paying attention to the PA guy before the National Anthem, you would have no way to realize there was a special autism event happening. The had little contests during time outs similar to Hart. Maybe the volume on the guy announcing that was turned down, but no way to tell. It was a nice idea and I'm sure they had the best of intentions, but kind of hard to pull off at a sporting event. At the very least, they should print out a leaflet and hand it to every person that walks in the door. Maybe even announce it again at the second half. After the game started, there was no way any visiting fan would know about the Autism Awareness Game or how it was different than any other Well that's not the narrative you want to come out of a game. The rowdy Holy Cross Fan base which I'm sure was not a lot of young people. If she realized that I don't think she would have posted that unless a lot of Holy Cross students or recent graduates turned out for the game.
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Post by Tom on Dec 30, 2019 17:10:26 GMT -5
There was very little cheering. My guess is this tweeter was very close to one or two people who cheered and it either got to her child or she thought it might. No cheer was as loud as the guy who commented the little contests during time outs. Based on earlier posts, I went to the Siena website
I don't see anything about requesting a special code of conduct not normal for college athletics. My guess is that this Sarah had different expectations of what special accommodations met. She might have assumed a library like atmosphere and maybe she has a child that needs that and as such can't normally attend sporting events. I I haven't seen anything that makes me think the school wanted or expected the same degree of silence this lady expected.
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Post by lou on Dec 30, 2019 17:16:15 GMT -5
Maybe Sarah should have said something during the game, I expect it would have helped. The twitter bashing wasn't neccessary
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Post by HC92 on Dec 30, 2019 17:28:07 GMT -5
If anything, the HC fans were quieter than usual. I barely made a sound the whole game. The kids yelled during some free throws but no one other than Sarah was the least bit offended. Plenty of Siena fans yelled during free throws and at other appropriate points in the game. Sarah is a classic example of a person looking to be offended on behalf of others. None of the families near me was offended by anything my kids did. If the goal was to have the arena be silent during the game, that should have been made clear. I think a better way to do this promotion would be to have designated quiet sections if that would help everyone have a better experience. Kind of like alcohol free sections at pro sporting events.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 30, 2019 18:26:08 GMT -5
If anything, the HC fans were quieter than usual. I barely made a sound the whole game. The kids yelled during some free throws but no one other than Sarah was the least bit offended. Plenty of Siena fans yelled during free throws and at other appropriate points in the game. Sarah is a classic example of a person looking to be offended on behalf of others. None of the families near me was offended by anything my kids did. If the goal was to have the arena be silent during the game, that should have been made clear. I think a better way to do this promotion would be to have designated quiet sections if that would help everyone have a better experience. Kind of like alcohol free sections at pro sporting events. Based on one of their press releases, it appears there were special designated sections: Siena Basketball is set to partner with the Autism Society of the Greater Capital Region once again to host the Second Annual Sensory Friendly and Autism Awareness Game when the Saints play Holy Cross on Sunday, Dec. 29 at 2 p.m. at the Times Union Center. Special accommodations will be made to create a more sensory-friendly environment for fans with autism and other special needs.
One of the ways autism manifests itself is a sensitivity to loud or sudden noises, bright or flashing lights, and other intense sensory input. Those on the autism spectrum aren't the only ones who may have a sensitivity to noise and light. Individuals with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), migraines, fibromyalgia, ADHD/ADD, Down syndrome, and those who have suffered head injuries are also often affected.
In an effort to create a more sensory-friendly environment, slight in-game adjustments will be made to the lighting, public address, and music levels, and flashing ads on the video scoreboard, ribbon boards, and scorer's table and media table LED displays will be eliminated. In addition to creating a sensory-friendly environment, public address reads and video features will be conveyed during the game to help raise autism awareness for those in attendance. Coaches and bench personnel will also wear signature autism puzzle ribbons.
Special group rates for seating in Sections 101 and 102 are available for spectrum guests and others with special needs and their families, and can be purchased in advance by contacting the Autism Society of the Greater Capital Region at (518) 355-2191, or by e-mail at resource@asgcr.org (by Dec. 27). Furthermore, the Times Union Center Media Room, which is located just off Sections 101 and 102, will be converted into a sensory safe space where spectrum guests and others with special needs and their families can also watch the game on monitors. Saints players and coaches will visit with families in the media room following the game.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 30, 2019 18:50:49 GMT -5
Well, HC is currently 4-2 against Loyola in the years Kostecka has played for them. How strong a factor was he in those four losses? If Loyola wins both games this year, they will;l have climbed to a mediocre 5-5 (.500).
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Post by purple71 on Dec 30, 2019 18:54:45 GMT -5
You know what? Not really....it's nice but at the end of the day, no one cares, no one goes to the games etc. I'm spoiled I suppose in growing up during the 70s etc when HC hoop was still relevant in Dec, Jan and Feb...the Patriot League level of D1 hoop, as solid as it is, just doesn't hold interest to me and probably most of roughly my generation 50+ or so. I realize there is no solution without a massive change in policy....which isn't happening.....it's just too bad, a tradition/history is mired in mediocrity at best. Why is it that every time we play Siena the tread devolves into a discussion of the Patriot League? Is it the 6200 attendance? For those of us like Sarasota, I can only offer the wisdom of St. Francis
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 30, 2019 19:01:02 GMT -5
"For those of us like Sarasota, I can only offer the wisdom of St. Francis"
How utterly appropriate since Siena is a Franciscan run college.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 30, 2019 19:01:49 GMT -5
...but is it a seminary?
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Post by Tom on Dec 30, 2019 19:37:07 GMT -5
Based on one of their press releases, it appears there were special designated sections:
In an effort to create a more sensory-friendly environment, slight in-game adjustments will be made to the lighting, public address, and music levels, and flashing ads on the video scoreboard, ribbon boards, and scorer's table and media table LED displays will be eliminated. In addition to creating a sensory-friendly environment, public address reads and video features will be conveyed during the game to help raise autism awareness for those in attendance. Coaches and bench personnel will also wear signature autism puzzle ribbons.
Special group rates for seating in Sections 101 and 102 are available for spectrum guests and others with special needs and their families, and can be purchased in advance by contacting the Autism Society of the Greater Capital Region at (518) 355-2191, or by e-mail at resource@asgcr.org (by Dec. 27). Furthermore, the Times Union Center Media Room, which is located just off Sections 101 and 102, will be converted into a sensory safe space where spectrum guests and others with special needs and their families can also watch the game on monitors. Saints players and coaches will visit with families in the media room following the game.Sections 101 and 102 were on the same end of the court but opposite side from the HC section. I don't remember any announcements during the game
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Post by timholycross on Dec 30, 2019 20:11:04 GMT -5
A big arena like theirs doesn't have a larger version (or several similar versions) of the Ryan Room?
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Post by hceconhist on Dec 30, 2019 20:44:13 GMT -5
I don't think any here will debate that he recruited some quality players. Head of the class with Malcolm Miller, one of four players in the history of the Patriot League to play in the NBA (and first for HC since Witts class of 81). Jehyve Floyd turned out to be a very special player. Throw in 1000 point scorers Champion, Burrell, and Alexander. Not a bad top 5 for five seasons Jahaad Proctor and Andrew Kostecka may have come to HC if Milan Brown wasn't terminated. Yup, and look where they both are now. If you put Kostecka and Proctor into last year's starting five, it's probably a completely different PL season for HC.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 30, 2019 22:42:26 GMT -5
Well, HC is currently 4-2 against Loyola in the years Kostecka has played for them. How strong a factor was he in those four losses? If Loyola wins both games this year, they will;l have climbed to a mediocre 5-5 (.500). Milan Brown was a better coach and recruiter than Carmody. Crazy, I know.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 30, 2019 22:50:02 GMT -5
If anything, the HC fans were quieter than usual. I barely made a sound the whole game. The kids yelled during some free throws but no one other than Sarah was the least bit offended. Plenty of Siena fans yelled during free throws and at other appropriate points in the game. Sarah is a classic example of a person looking to be offended on behalf of others. None of the families near me was offended by anything my kids did. If the goal was to have the arena be silent during the game, that should have been made clear. I think a better way to do this promotion would be to have designated quiet sections if that would help everyone have a better experience. Kind of like alcohol free sections at pro sporting events. Based on one of their press releases, it appears there were special designated sections: Siena Basketball is set to partner with the Autism Society of the Greater Capital Region once again to host the Second Annual Sensory Friendly and Autism Awareness Game when the Saints play Holy Cross on Sunday, Dec. 29 at 2 p.m. at the Times Union Center. Special accommodations will be made to create a more sensory-friendly environment for fans with autism and other special needs.
One of the ways autism manifests itself is a sensitivity to loud or sudden noises, bright or flashing lights, and other intense sensory input. Those on the autism spectrum aren't the only ones who may have a sensitivity to noise and light. Individuals with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), migraines, fibromyalgia, ADHD/ADD, Down syndrome, and those who have suffered head injuries are also often affected.
In an effort to create a more sensory-friendly environment, slight in-game adjustments will be made to the lighting, public address, and music levels, and flashing ads on the video scoreboard, ribbon boards, and scorer's table and media table LED displays will be eliminated. In addition to creating a sensory-friendly environment, public address reads and video features will be conveyed during the game to help raise autism awareness for those in attendance. Coaches and bench personnel will also wear signature autism puzzle ribbons.
Special group rates for seating in Sections 101 and 102 are available for spectrum guests and others with special needs and their families, and can be purchased in advance by contacting the Autism Society of the Greater Capital Region at (518) 355-2191, or by e-mail at resource@asgcr.org (by Dec. 27). Furthermore, the Times Union Center Media Room, which is located just off Sections 101 and 102, will be converted into a sensory safe space where spectrum guests and others with special needs and their families can also watch the game on monitors. Saints players and coaches will visit with families in the media room following the game.Thanks. That makes me feel better. As someone else noted, we were nowhere near 101 and 102.
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Post by sarasota on Dec 31, 2019 1:50:49 GMT -5
...but is it a seminary? The Franciscans are quite different from the Jesuits.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 31, 2019 2:01:23 GMT -5
What a thread. We have gone from discussing the play on the floor, to Lowder’s status, to how loud we can yell when Siena is shooting free throws.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 31, 2019 6:32:43 GMT -5
There's no way this thread would have gone so far off the rails if we were in the Big East.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 31, 2019 6:42:17 GMT -5
😂😂😂😂
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Post by Tom on Dec 31, 2019 8:39:24 GMT -5
What a thread. We have gone from discussing the play on the floor, to Lowder’s status, to how loud we can yell when Siena is shooting free throws. In all fairness, all of those are relevant to the topic of Siena game day. Conference affiliation not so much
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