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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 3, 2020 21:20:38 GMT -5
Clock nails it.
The writing is, sadly, on the wall.
First the NESCAC calls off the season.
Slowly but surely, Ivy League schools are beginning to show signs that there won’t be a fall football season.
The Patriot League, who no doubt aspires to be mentioned in the same breath as Williams, Amherst, Yale, and Harvard (we are not, by the way) will most assuredly follow suit.
I’d say the Patriot League has weak leadership, but that would be an insult to leadership.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 3, 2020 22:33:48 GMT -5
Lafayette cancels Sept 12th game with Navy, Middies looking for replacement. Georgetown is a 38 mile drive to Annapolis...and there is 0.00000% chance Navy would consider it. Clock nails it. The Patriot League, who no doubt aspires to be mentioned in the same breath as Williams, Amherst, Yale, and Harvard (we are not, by the way) will most assuredly follow suit. I’d say the Patriot League has weak leadership, but that would be an insult to leadership. If so, Georgetown should decline and schedule on its own. It does not aspire to be schools like Williams or Amherst, and frankly, neither should HC.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 3, 2020 22:53:30 GMT -5
Frankly, Holy Cross does not aspire to be like any other school
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 3, 2020 23:36:53 GMT -5
SoV did not say HC aspires to be those schools. "Mentioned in the same breath" means to be thought of as in the same class by the masses, and he's correct.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 4, 2020 8:04:16 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 4, 2020 8:13:26 GMT -5
Perhaps appropriate due to SoCal being a hot spot, while B.U., another large private urban University in a region where infections are declining will have students on campus. If USC cancels FB for the season, will the NCAA allow players to transfer without sitting out a year to schools that haven't cancelled FB?
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 4, 2020 8:35:24 GMT -5
If many schools are going to proceed with cancellation of their football seasons, the NCAA needs to step up and grant each player an additional year of eligibility. Students should not be penalized by this issue, especially when they are not being given the chance to decide for themselves.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 4, 2020 8:58:04 GMT -5
Perhaps appropriate due to SoCal being a hot spot, while B.U., another large private urban University in a region where infections are declining will have students on campus. If USC cancels FB for the season, will the NCAA allow players to transfer without sitting out a year to schools that haven't cancelled FB? Once upon a time, I had awarded a contract to USC for a certain type of software, and made a few trips to the campus in the course of overseeing the contract. The neighborhood to the immediate east of the school was kind of sketchy back then, and looking at current demographics, it appears that Hispanics have displaced some/most of the African-Americans, though I suspect it is still sketchy. Whites constitute 1.8 percent of the population of South Central LA, 56 percent of the population was born outside the U.S., 74% of the adults did not finish high school. South Central LA was the flash point of the Watts riots and the Rodney King riots. Quiet this year. The USC campus is proximate to a community at high risk for COVID infection, sort of like what would Tufts do if its campus was in Chelsea, not Medford.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 4, 2020 13:51:02 GMT -5
Perhaps appropriate due to SoCal being a hot spot, while B.U., another large private urban University in a region where infections are declining will have students on campus. If USC cancels FB for the season, will the NCAA allow players to transfer without sitting out a year to schools that haven't cancelled FB? Columbia is going to a MOSTLY online schedule while being in the original hot spot covid19.columbia.edu/news/teachers-college-updates-plans-start-2020-21-academic-year
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Post by hcpride on Jul 4, 2020 14:41:01 GMT -5
Perhaps appropriate due to SoCal being a hot spot, while B.U., another large private urban University in a region where infections are declining will have students on campus. If USC cancels FB for the season, will the NCAA allow players to transfer without sitting out a year to schools that haven't cancelled FB? Columbia is going to a MOSTLY online schedule while being in the original hot spot covid19.columbia.edu/news/teachers-college-updates-plans-start-2020-21-academic-yearTeachers College is a graduate program. Beyond that, I don't know whether all the undergraduate kids are going to be back on campus at Columbia and I don't think they have announced that yet. (Schools [dorms, etc.] can be opened up for the kids and instruction still be mostly online for the classes.)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 4, 2020 14:44:08 GMT -5
Perhaps appropriate due to SoCal being a hot spot, while B.U., another large private urban University in a region where infections are declining will have students on campus. If USC cancels FB for the season, will the NCAA allow players to transfer without sitting out a year to schools that haven't cancelled FB? Columbia is going to a MOSTLY online schedule while being in the original hot spot covid19.columbia.edu/news/teachers-college-updates-plans-start-2020-21-academic-yearDo not confuse Columbia Teachers College with the principal undergraduate colleges (Columbia College / Barnard). Harvard has already announced that many/most of its graduate / professional schools will be on-line for the fall semester including the law school. (For the life of me, I do not know how a student would fare in many law school classes without regular access to a law library, though I confess I am unfamiliar with the extent that many appellate cases are digitized these days.) IIRC, the other Harvard schools that would be conducted remotely would be Graduate School of Design, Education (on-line for both semesters), Kennedy School, Divinity School, and School of Public Health. Notably absent (at least for now) is the Graduate School of arts and Sciences. Tufts in Medford will be on-campus, and will hold classes on-campus after Thanksgiving. Students are being strongly encouraged not to go home at Thanksgiving.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 4, 2020 15:03:56 GMT -5
Lafayette cancels Sept 12th game with Navy, Middies looking for replacement. Georgetown is a 38 mile drive to Annapolis...and there is 0.00000% chance Navy would consider it.Clock nails it. The Patriot League, who no doubt aspires to be mentioned in the same breath as Williams, Amherst, Yale, and Harvard (we are not, by the way) will most assuredly follow suit. I’d say the Patriot League has weak leadership, but that would be an insult to leadership. If so, Georgetown should decline and schedule on its own. It does not aspire to be schools like Williams or Amherst, and frankly, neither should HC. According to your schedule, Georgetown has a home game against Dayton that day that has yet to be cancelled.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 4, 2020 15:32:36 GMT -5
Georgetown has bigger fish to fry than football. If GU doesn't play football in the fall semester, how would it play Big East Conference basketball in the fall semester? The two sports posing the highest risk of competitor-to-competitor transmission are hoops and wrestling. (Rugby would be up there, too.) AFAIK, after reading GU's communiques to its students -- which often are not very specific -- it does appear that GU is planning for an on-campus semester for all undergraduate class years, with opportunities for students to take those classes remotely. www.georgetown.edu/news/plans-for-the-fall-2020-semester-at-georgetown/^^^ Note the signatories at the bottom.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 4, 2020 15:49:14 GMT -5
Perhaps appropriate due to SoCal being a hot spot, while B.U., another large private urban University in a region where infections are declining will have students on campus. If USC cancels FB for the season, will the NCAA allow players to transfer without sitting out a year to schools that haven't cancelled FB? If BU still had football and there was a season with no fans, they'd still have fans watching from the 3 high rise dorms in the end zone! A big home field advantage.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 4, 2020 17:19:12 GMT -5
Do not confuse Columbia Teachers College with the principal undergraduate colleges (Columbia College / Barnard). Harvard has already announced that many/most of its graduate / professional schools will be on-line for the fall semester including the law school. (For the life of me, I do not know how a student would fare in many law school classes without regular access to a law library, though I confess I am unfamiliar with the extent that many appellate cases are digitized these days.) IIRC, the other Harvard schools that would be conducted remotely would be Graduate School of Design, Education (on-line for both semesters), Kennedy School, Divinity School, and School of Public Health. Notably absent (at least for now) is the Graduate School of arts and Sciences. Tufts in Medford will be on-campus, and will hold classes on-campus after Thanksgiving. Students are being strongly encouraged not to go home at Thanksgiving. I would be shocked if law students ever cracked open an actual book these days. They look good on the shelves but pretty sure they’re almost never used.
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 4, 2020 22:23:05 GMT -5
I can think of an FCS school in Worcester that also qualifies:
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 5, 2020 0:13:43 GMT -5
I can think of an FCS school in Worcester that also qualifies: I can think of a FCS school in North Andover too
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 5, 2020 7:57:14 GMT -5
The Commonwealth has not published specific guidelines for Phase III for recreation and sports. These are to be published shortly. The Phase II guidelines are published here. www.mass.gov/doc/outdoor-adult-sports-supervised-youth-sports-leagues-summer-sports-camps/downloadPhase III will have two stages; stage one of Phase III goes into effect on July 6, except for Boston, where it goes into effect on July 13. Stage 4 occurs only with the arrival of a vaccine or effective treatment. Based on the governor's comments, it does appear many/most of the restrictions in Phase II will be lifted for Phase III. The major limitations likely to remain in place until Phase 4 are those related to the number of spectators allowed. There may also be specific provisions / protocols set for teams coming from those high-infection-rate states where MA has already instructed residents of those states to enter a 14 day self-imposed quarantine if they travel to Massachusetts.
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Jul 5, 2020 10:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 5, 2020 15:30:55 GMT -5
What is not being documented and reported are the total number and percentage of people under 45 or 60 who have experienced Cytokine Storms, and are willing to experience them again so that the economy can recover.
Also for those who are in such a hurry for total opening before therapeutics are available, now is the time they step up and volunteer in a hot spot at a hospital to provide relief to trained front line workers who have been extended to exhaustion. Otherwise conversation by keyboard warriors is inconsequential since they do not have skin in the game.
Time to reread Alfred Lord Tennyson again. “The Charge of the Light Brigade”, and the refrain, “On to the valley of death rode the 600”.
Update to 2020, let’s change the phrase to “On to the Valley of death rode the 130,000 and counting.”
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Post by redbandit236 on Jul 5, 2020 15:39:59 GMT -5
And it is the total lack of awareness of people who think like this (and have been for the past 4 months) that will continue to cause cases to spike, making fall football impossible to play.
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Post by spenser on Jul 5, 2020 16:26:46 GMT -5
I hope you don’t get COVID. It’s a horrible disease in many cases. If you do, maybe it will feel like the seasonal flu. But maybe not. I know a woman (supposedly women are much less susceptible than men to COVID), 45 (comparatively young), strong (ran the NY Marathon last Fall). She’s been suffering for almost three months. Has been hospitalized, has numerous symptoms, can’t work, and more. This is no joke. You do not want to get this. If you don’t care for yourself, you should care for other people. Remember “men and women for others”. I seem to have heard that somewhere...
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 5, 2020 16:36:21 GMT -5
What is not being documented and reported are the total number and percentage of people under 45 or 60 who have experienced Cytokine Storms, and are willing to experience them again so that the economy can recover. Also for those who are in such a hurry for total opening before therapeutics are available, now is the time they step up and volunteer in a hot spot at a hospital to provide relief to trained front line workers who have been extended to exhaustion. Otherwise conversation by keyboard warriors is inconsequential since they do not have skin in the game. Time to reread Alfred Lord Tennyson again. “The Charge of the Light Brigade”, and the refrain, “On to the valley of death rode the 600”. Update to 2020, let’s change the phrase to “On to the Valley of death rode the 130,000 and counting.” Another new vocabulary word learned from reading Crossports. Thank you. I can afford to gamble occasionally with money set aside for recreation, but I don't want to gamble I'll have mild symptoms and not lose my kidneys to a cytokine storm, so I'm one of those taking careful precautions to try to avoid getting the virus in the first place.
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Jul 5, 2020 16:38:07 GMT -5
I hope you don’t get COVID. It’s a horrible disease in many cases. If you do, maybe it will feel like the seasonal flu. But maybe not. I know a woman (supposedly women are much less susceptible than men to COVID), 45 (comparatively young), strong (ran the NY Marathon last Fall). She’s been suffering for almost three months. Has been hospitalized, has numerous symptoms, can’t work, and more. This is no joke. You do not want to get this. If you don’t care for yourself, you should care for other people. Remember “men and women for others”. I seem to have heard that somewhere... Thank you Spense. All good points. I practice good hygiene. Don’t drink alcohol, don’t smoke. Exercise daily. Am largely respectful of others and their opinions. Understand this virus can be fatal....so can the flu. I am skeptical of the metrics being used and the moving definitions used to tally “positive tests” . Similarly the manner in which deaths are counted in spite of other maladies. The Medicare bonus $$$ paid to hospitals which admit positive cases is an obvious conflict in my opinion. All that being said, I wish nobody harm or ill will. God Bless and Go Cross 🏈. Hoping we can celebrate back to back PL Championships.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 5, 2020 16:41:06 GMT -5
And it is the total lack of awareness of people who think like this (and have been for the past 4 months) that will continue to cause cases to spike, making fall football impossible to play. In Massachusetts?
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