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Post by longsuffering on Nov 16, 2021 0:22:21 GMT -5
Speaking of attendance, about 7,000 turned out for the Amherst-Williams game. Weather was likely better up north, but to outdraw the PL game of the decade is disappointing. It was actually smaller than the last time I shot that game in 2018...IMO based on what I saw. There was no way there was 5k there in my world. The SID over estimated in the box score! www.foley-photography.com/Football/College-Football/2021-Season/Williams-at-Amherst/Oops my finger slipped and I accidentally bought several photos at $50 a pop.😂 But seriously, I hope several parents and grandparents bought photos. Williams and Amherst families can afford it
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 16, 2021 7:10:30 GMT -5
Amherst Williams rivalry made college football 150 1 hour show about rivalries.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 16, 2021 8:27:48 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Nov 16, 2021 10:45:52 GMT -5
Amherst Williams rivalry made college football 150 1 hour show about rivalries. In which a hs friend of mine and his teammates are seen marching through the streets of Williamstown in their football unis after beating the then-Lord Jeffs. I had seen the photo on Facebook, couldn't believe I was seeing it on tv.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 16, 2021 11:30:52 GMT -5
I like this for two reasons: a.) if we're indeed at home for Round 1 (even though we're listed on top), and b.) Round 2 has us facing the #6 seed - certainly no implications that the "scrub" that comes out of our game will be fed to the wolves, i.e., one of the top two or three seeds. Maybe, just maybe, a little respect for the Crusaders?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 16, 2021 11:47:09 GMT -5
Well deserved respect for the Crusaders.
If the source is North Dakota based, its pretty reliable. They know FCS football out there.
Holy Cross clocked in at #24 in the AGS poll, which is historically the best FCS Top 25 poll. Villanova was #6. If Nova beats the Hens, they will win the CAA AQ and it would be an absolute JOKE to not award them a seed.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 16, 2021 12:22:57 GMT -5
I’ll take that! Neither URI nor Monmouth get in according to that scenario…so I’ll eyeball their games (or at least their scores) Saturday.
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Post by kaftan12 on Nov 16, 2021 12:37:46 GMT -5
Does strength of a schedule factor into having a home game vs road game?
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 16, 2021 12:41:32 GMT -5
Honestly a big part of it is what type of bid does HC present to the Committee. They have to submit a strong monetary bid for it to get reviewed and accepted.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 16, 2021 12:58:16 GMT -5
I guess one other thought...would it be best to root for Elon to beat URI and keep them out? That would possibly open the door for W&M. I'd rather play SHU in the first round. I think the way things are going this year, we would likely be looking at JMU or Nova in the 2nd.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 16, 2021 13:30:36 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 16, 2021 13:49:00 GMT -5
How about HC vs Sacramento State?
It is time after 52 years for the teams to meet.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 16, 2021 13:49:14 GMT -5
Just so you're aware, PP, dating back to 2011 (excluding the spring playoffs of this year as that was reduced to 16 teams, instead of 24), in the first round, the PL at-large qualifier has either hosted or played a game traveling to the following three states: NJ, NY, and NH.
Colgate has hosted New Hampshire and Fordham has hosted Sacred Heart twice.
The last time an at-large team from the PL traveled outside of those three states was in 2010 when Lehigh went to Northern Iowa. Before that, it was in 2005 with Lafayette traveling to Appalachian State.
If Rhode Island makes the playoffs, I can almost guarantee you that we will be paired with them.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 16, 2021 13:52:19 GMT -5
Honestly a big part of it is what type of bid does HC present to the Committee. They have to submit a strong monetary bid for it to get reviewed and accepted. This is what I’m very curious about. The bid itself. A few quick comments: 1) If HC submitted a bid, they most likely submitted it by now. The selection announcement is this Sunday. I assume the NCAA is reviewing bids as we speak. 2) Many of us have reviewed the NCAA documents with the requirements/specs. What I don’t know is how much weight a school’s bid impacts the decision. For example, if a school with below average facilities (e.g. - locker rooms) makes a substantial bid, will $ trump the facilities? What’s interesting is that HC Football hasn’t been in this position since they last hosted in the early 80s. In other words, the Athletic Department has never had to submit a bid.* It will be interesting to see how they fare… *NY Crusader may know if we actually submitted a bid in 2009 before the last week of the season. I’m not exactly sure, but am curious if anyone knows.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 16, 2021 13:58:38 GMT -5
Who is going to spearhead the bid proposal to host a game with an interim AD in place? Nick Smith?
In typical HC fashion, I could very easily see us punting here.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 16, 2021 14:04:20 GMT -5
Who is going to spearhead the bid proposal to host a game with an interim AD in place? Nick Smith? In typical HC fashion, I could very easily see us punting here. SOV: Great question. Who is the “point person” on this? If HC does “punt” on this, what type of message does it send to the football team? To alumni boosters? Winning a league championship/having a great season is very special. We haven’t experienced it much in the last 30 years. It is my hope that HC realizes the magnitude of the team’s accomplishment and puts its best foot forward with the bid.
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 16, 2021 14:08:43 GMT -5
FFF - it's hard to say it sends a wrong message. I only say that because there is a chance that HC does in fact submit a bid to host a first round game and they get outbid or the Committee selects someone else for a variety of other reasons (home attendance as an example).
So to be fair - just because they don't get a home game doesn't mean they didn't try. That part will be hard to figure out and hopefully the part that gets messaged is in fact that they are submitting a bid and putting their best foot forward to "win" a home game.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 16, 2021 14:15:20 GMT -5
FFF - it's hard to say it sends a wrong message. I only say that because there is a chance that HC does in fact submit a bid to host a first round game and they get outbid or the Committee selects someone else for a variety of other reasons (home attendance as an example). So to be fair - just because they don't get a home game doesn't mean they didn't try. That part will be hard to figure out and hopefully the part that gets messaged is in fact that they are submitting a bid and putting their best foot forward to "win" a home game. dHarry: Excellent point. I agree. The reality is that we can only speculate. We are not familiar with the intimate details of the process. At least I’m not. It’s only fair to give the HC AD team the benefit of the doubt. I also agree that, if we don’t get the home game, I hope there will be some messaging (perhaps through Jen Tolland) that HC did submit a competitive bid but it was rejected.
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 16, 2021 14:31:46 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Nov 16, 2021 15:05:10 GMT -5
I can tell you there were at least 3 trustees at Jack Coffey field on Saturday, including the board chair. Given that "football constituency", I would suspect that HC will submit a bid. Whether it is deemed a winner by the powers at the NCAA is anyone's guess.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 16, 2021 15:16:12 GMT -5
I have to think that if Bob Chesney prefers a home game he will be very active in motivating everyone in TPTB to put in a strong bid.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 16, 2021 15:17:24 GMT -5
Who is going to spearhead the bid proposal to host a game with an interim AD in place? Nick Smith? In typical HC fashion, I could very easily see us punting here. Nick Smith did the bid at Assumption in multiple years....
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 16, 2021 15:19:26 GMT -5
Oops my finger slipped and I accidentally bought several photos at $50 a pop.😂 But seriously, I hope several parents and grandparents bought photos. Williams and Amherst families can afford it I get paid by the school to be there...you recognize that right?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 16, 2021 15:59:43 GMT -5
FFF - it's hard to say it sends a wrong message. I only say that because there is a chance that HC does in fact submit a bid to host a first round game and they get outbid or the Committee selects someone else for a variety of other reasons (home attendance as an example). So to be fair - just because they don't get a home game doesn't mean they didn't try. That part will be hard to figure out and hopefully the part that gets messaged is in fact that they are submitting a bid and putting their best foot forward to "win" a home game. dHarry: Excellent point. I agree. The reality is that we can only speculate. We are not familiar with the intimate details of the process. At least I’m not. It’s only fair to give the HC AD team the benefit of the doubt. I also agree that, if we don’t get the home game, I hope there will be some messaging (perhaps through Jen Tolland) that HC did submit a competitive bid but it was rejected. It may be that HC looked at the bid specs, and concluded it could not meet all of them, or it would be too costly to meet them. For example, if lights are required, HC would need to find a contractor who could install them in five days time. (The cost to Univ of Iowa for temporary lighting a decade ago was $50-60,000 per game just for the stadium.) Its certainly cheaper when you can put that job out for competitive bids, but little time for that at this juncture. If lighting is a required spec, HC's bid would need to include a signed contract with the company who will provide the lights, and HC probably would need to pay the contractor a percentage of the total contract as a non-refundable deposit. (Then there is temporary lighting for unlit parking areas such as Freshman Field. The lawyers will insist on it.) The replay system must be a NCAA-specified system. I do not know whether the PL replay system, which is standard for the PL, is the same system specified by the NCAA. If not, HC would need to install a new replay system in a week's time. And (potentially) on and on. As for PL teams in previous years hosting first round games, what was their ranking in the polls at the time? HC is unranked in the two polls that appear on the NCAA's website, and which presumably are considered by the selection committee when creating the brackets. I simply don't see a selection committee having a #22 (HC) playing a #23 or #24 in the first round while a #15 has to play a #18. If someone can show me a precedent (excluding the play-in games for the Dance) in a NCAA Championship with brackets where this regularly occurs, then I will think otherwise. Finally, if URI was HC"s opponent, and URI has submitted a bid, why should HC prevail over URI's bid? (URI has lights.) Isn't the URI AD associated in some way with the selection committee?
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Nov 16, 2021 16:07:00 GMT -5
The way we play on the road: UCONN, YALE, MONMOUTH & FORDHAM.....maybe we should submit a bid to play AWAY Road Warriors! Go Cross!!
:-)
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