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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 14, 2022 18:13:34 GMT -5
The thrill is gone. Screw the transfers. The annual parade of transfers has led to a lessening of interest in college bb and HC bb in particular. IMO the NBA was always a far superior game to watch. Rough & tumble, rivalries more than equal to tobacco road. Instead, of the unending, repetitive March Madness(Great PR) I have moved my interest almost entirely to the great NBA. Purists can sniff about the extra step, uncalled fouls etc but the NBA is a better product in my mind. The NBA has better players, and a far better game without the sanctimonious hypocrisy of student professional athletes who are supposedly giving their all for their school. Can't stand the pimps Dickie V, Bill R hyping bs to further their own incomes ... "Great kids" & all that crap. I realize some will disagree. In their view big time college bball is the epitome but it is not so for me. Different strokes... Enjoy! March Madness was a guilty pleasure at one time but is no more. The NBA playoffs were always far superior. I'll take the NBA playoffs without the hypocrisy any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Now, about those perpetually crappy Knicks... I think the European pro game is better than the NBA....Only four ten minute quarters. |
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2022 18:43:24 GMT -5
I realize this is life in 2021, but I really hate all these transfers out of HC, It just seems wrong. And obviously leaving HC for any other school would be a mistake
year #1 - 8 into the portal (6 scholarship and 2 walk ons)
year #2 - 2 into the portal (not counting graduates Faw and Butler)
year #3 - 2 into the portal (hopefully that is all)
Tough to build a program if you lose two transfers every year
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 14, 2022 19:01:59 GMT -5
Happy New Year it’s 2022 and this is our new reality
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 14, 2022 19:16:18 GMT -5
Nelson's bagman in this forum already licking his chops knowing he can bust out the "bunch of new guys" excuse for another year if/when the team stinks yet again next season.
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2022 19:26:27 GMT -5
Happy New Year it’s 2022 and this is our new reality Damn McFly moment |
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 14, 2022 19:38:14 GMT -5
Ryan Wade 3 points in 10 games at Central Michigan
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Climbing Mt. St. James
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Post by pcfriar on Mar 14, 2022 21:01:45 GMT -5
Martindale can't get his shot off. He can't play at a higher level. Simple eye ball test. He should go D2. I've watched a lot of DII basketball over the last 10 years and will tell you with confidence that it is a very physical game and the speed of play is often quicker than DI.
Not sure Martindale's game is physical or quick enough to translate to much success at that level.
Martindale had plenty of opportunity. He is a defensive liability and can't shoot. He did HC a favor. These guys couldn't play (well) for one of the worst teams in D1. The coach doesn't shoot the ball or play the game....he needs to recruit better...might be too late for that. Find another Ed Cooley...someone who will sell the HC brand...Crusader Town!! New coach needs to engage with alumni, fans, and community. Sell the program!!! Enthusiasm goes a long way! |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 14, 2022 21:31:33 GMT -5
Always good to have one of our Friar friends from down route 146visit our board. We appreciate your input . Good luck against So Dak State
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Post by alum on Mar 15, 2022 4:48:21 GMT -5
Always good to have one of our Friar friends from down route 146visit our board. We appreciate your input . Good luck against So Dak State Although we have some Jackrabbit friends, too.🤫 |
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Post by hcpride on Mar 15, 2022 4:56:32 GMT -5
No surprise we’d lose a few to the transfer portal. On the other hand the transfer portal and a chance for playing time should facilitate Nelson’s landing of a big or two currently buried on the bench at a better program.🤞
Never bought the argument (did anyone?) that we simply can’t go .500 because we start some (many) frosh/sophs.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 15, 2022 5:06:47 GMT -5
Martindale can't get his shot off. He can't play at a higher level. Simple eye ball test. He should go D2. I've watched a lot of DII basketball over the last 10 years and will tell you with confidence that it is a very physical game and the speed of play is often quicker than DI.
Not sure Martindale's game is physical or quick enough to translate to much success at that level.
I agree with some of this but at 6’7” (his listed height) Martindale has the skill/size combo to score quite well at the D2 level. |
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Post by Tom on Mar 15, 2022 8:01:27 GMT -5
Random question -
When the portal was new, we were told that only coaches had access to the names and it was basically confidential. Why is there a twitter account called portal updates?
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 15, 2022 8:12:57 GMT -5
Judson showed promise (at least I thought) at the offensive end his freshman year. No doubt he regressed his soph year; maybe his hand/thumb injury had something to do with it, maybe it didn't. I still find it a little troubling when a local kid leaves. The only positive I can take out of it at this point in time is it can allow for a rebalance of the classes.
Maybe CBN can bring in an impact player or two, but if they are not ready to step in right away he may not get to experience the upgrades.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 15, 2022 8:26:20 GMT -5
I've watched a lot of DII basketball over the last 10 years and will tell you with confidence that it is a very physical game and the speed of play is often quicker than DI.
Not sure Martindale's game is physical or quick enough to translate to much success at that level.
I agree with some of this but at 6’7” (his listed height) Martindale has the skill/size combo to score quite well at the D2 level. I refuse to believe that Martindale won't become a serviceable guy at some D1 school. Based on his offers alone, he was the most decorated recruit to come to HC since probably Phil Beans. With a smart coach who could bring his game along and insert him into an offense where he could be successful that would play to his abilities, he'd be a nice scorer. I still think that. Vermont loses a TON of guys this year (they're the 4th most experienced team in the country) and they were a school who had offered him. I think Martindale could do well there. |
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Post by football44 on Mar 15, 2022 8:39:49 GMT -5
I've watched a lot of DII basketball over the last 10 years and will tell you with confidence that it is a very physical game and the speed of play is often quicker than DI.
Not sure Martindale's game is physical or quick enough to translate to much success at that level.
Martindale had plenty of opportunity. He is a defensive liability and can't shoot. He did HC a favor. These guys couldn't play (well) for one of the worst teams in D1. The coach doesn't shoot the ball or play the game....he needs to recruit better...might be too late for that. Find another Ed Cooley...someone who will sell the HC brand...Crusader Town!! New coach needs to engage with alumni, fans, and community. Sell the program!!! Enthusiasm goes a long way! I agree whole heartedly with the pcfriar. He understand what I've been saying all along. We need a Northeast Gym Rat for a coach. Someone who understands the history of Holy Cross basketball. Loyola of Chicago, Gonzaga and the list goes on and on with Catholic institutions whose basketball programs are historic and the people coaching those teams understand their history. In our case not a point guard who played at Florida and grew up in West Virginia without any understanding of who HC is in basketball. And on another note all of these kids jumping into the portal, these are his recruits. He has lost the team!! |
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Post by crusader1970 on Mar 15, 2022 8:43:16 GMT -5
I agree with some of this but at 6’7” (his listed height) Martindale has the skill/size combo to score quite well at the D2 level. I refuse to believe that Martindale won't become a serviceable guy at some D1 school. Based on his offers alone, he was the most decorated recruit to come to HC since probably Phil Beans. With a smart coach who could bring his game along and insert him into an offense where he could be successful that would play to his abilities, he'd be a nice scorer. I still think that. Vermont loses a TON of guys this year (they're the 4th most experienced team in the country) and they were a school who had offered him. I think Martindale could do well there. SOV, you may be proven to be correct.
Tough to tell.
Was it the coaching staff that held back his development? Perhaps.
The things that would concern me if I were assessing him for a program like Vermont are (1) his foot speed, especially on the defensive side (2) his overall offensive court sense (he threw away a number of passes this year that were very soft and off target) and (3) his ability to get off his jump shot if it wasn't an open standing jumper.
That said, I wish him well.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 15, 2022 8:45:31 GMT -5
Just to stay in reality...losing two players to the TP who did not have as much playing time as they wanted or had eligibility they cannot use at HC (no grad school) is hardly "losing the team."  |
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Post by trimster on Mar 15, 2022 9:17:43 GMT -5
Just to stay in reality...losing two players to the TP who did not have as much playing time as they wanted or had eligibility they cannot use at HC (no grad school) is hardly "losing the team." I agree wholeheartedly. If 3-4 more enter the TP and I doubt that will happen, then I would agree with the assertion BN has lost the team. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 15, 2022 10:22:42 GMT -5
SOV on Jan 10th Martindale wondering when the next D3 opponent is. SOV on Feb 19th: Martindale is a liability on both ends. He has zero confidence out there. It’s tough to watch. SOV on Feb 19th: Get Martindale off the court. SOV after Martindale leaves and his eyes light up for another chance to bash HCBN: I agree with some of this but at 6’7” (his listed height) Martindale has the skill/size combo to score quite well at the D2 level. I refuse to believe that Martindale won't become a serviceable guy at some D1 school. Based on his offers alone, he was the most decorated recruit to come to HC since probably Phil Beans. With a smart coach who could bring his game along and insert him into an offense where he could be successful that would play to his abilities, he'd be a nice scorer. I still think that. Vermont loses a TON of guys this year (they're the 4th most experienced team in the country) and they were a school who had offered him. I think Martindale could do well there. |
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Post by timholycross on Mar 15, 2022 11:06:02 GMT -5
Cant see Martindale playing a lot on a team that a year from now has legitimate aspirations of being on the bracket.
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Post by trimster on Mar 15, 2022 13:04:29 GMT -5
A kid from UNH, Sloan Seymour, has entered the portal for the 3rd time. I believe he has two years of eligibility left. Started at Siena, followed his coach to GW, left there and spent one year at UNH. I am guessing he sat out a year at GW and got an extra year due to Covid.
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Post by hcnj on Mar 15, 2022 13:14:03 GMT -5
I've thought Martindale was the reincarnation of Jordan Stevens. Well regarded small forward with excellent offers, jump shooting scoring was his calling card. I was really excited to see them choose HC. As frosh, AIR, Jordan had a new coach and I thought he should have had more opportunity, Martindale early on looked like a scorer and nothing afterwards. To me, Jordan looked like he had stolen someone else's body the summer before junior year and did his best to play in it. Maybe injury never healed. Martindale has some time to change his trajectory, best wishes.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 15, 2022 13:18:14 GMT -5
A kid from UNH, Sloan Seymour, has entered the portal for the 3rd time. I believe he has two years of eligibility left. Started at Siena, followed his coach to GW, left there and spent one year at UNH. I am guessing he sat out a year at GW and got an extra year due to Covid. How old is this guy? Maybe he's hoping to play with his son in a few years? |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 15, 2022 13:37:04 GMT -5
I've thought Martindale was the reincarnation of Jordan Stevens. Well regarded small forward with excellent offers, jump shooting scoring was his calling card. I was really excited to see them choose HC. As frosh, AIR, Jordan had a new coach and I thought he should have had more opportunity, Martindale early on looked like a scorer and nothing afterwards. To me, Jordan looked like he had stolen someone else's body the summer before junior year and did his best to play in it. Maybe injury never healed. Martindale has some time to change his trajectory, best wishes. Did Jordan have the drive game that Martindale showed in HS and late this season? |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 15, 2022 13:44:31 GMT -5
A kid from UNH, Sloan Seymour, has entered the portal for the 3rd time. I believe he has two years of eligibility left. Started at Siena, followed his coach to GW, left there and spent one year at UNH. I am guessing he sat out a year at GW and got an extra year due to Covid. How old is this guy? Maybe he's hoping to play with his son in a few years? Hilarious!
Seymour is a 6-9 guy who camps out on the arc - averaged twelve minutes, three points and one lonely rebound per. DNP in twenty games. He's played almost 1,200 minutes in his college career - and has taken a grand total of twenty free throws.
Next . . .
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