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Post by spenser on Jan 24, 2023 8:20:23 GMT -5
I do find it at least a bit premature to debate the process for filling an opening that does not, as yet, exist.  While the topic gives people something to talk about, this is the reality. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 24, 2023 9:17:09 GMT -5
I do find it at least a bit premature to debate the process for filling an opening that does not, as yet, exist. 1. we like to be "ahead of the curve" here 2. when/if an opening happens, it will happen suddenly and without warning, so we just want to be prepared (even though none of us on here will be involved in the process - just interested bystanders). |
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 24, 2023 9:46:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the very appropriate explanation. I find it a bit disconcerting to simultaneously read about how a very successful PL coach did not really start his string of successful seasons until after 6 most disappointing ones while hearing how we need to get rid of a coach whose team seems too be developing through the year. Might have a future upside that we have not yet seen? It is a bit troubling. However, I realize that some really enjoy the discussions of future moves by HC and I have no issue with that. Thanks again. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 24, 2023 10:29:17 GMT -5
Heck, if I knew anything, I'd be the coach or, maybe, the AD.  |
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Post by trimster on Jan 25, 2023 8:47:49 GMT -5
Will Ryan just got canned at Wisconsin Green Bay. 15-61 record there. There was a link in the HoopDirt article to a story about his contract. His base salary was $175,000 and the many incentives included 5,000 for: a Horizon League reg season title, an HL tourney title, a jump of 5% in gross tickets sold over prior year, a team gpa of 2.75, an NIT bid. 10,000 for making the Big Dance, winning the NIT. I believe 15,000 for making the Sweet Sixteen. Interesting assuming the story was correct. Oh, the contract was for six years when hired. I think he was in year 3. Sounds right based on 76 games.
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Post by trimster on Jan 25, 2023 8:56:20 GMT -5
Will Ryan just got canned at Wisconsin Green Bay. 15-61 record there. There was a link in the HoopDirt article to a story about his contract. His base salary was $175,000 and the many incentives included 5,000 for: a Horizon League reg season title, an HL tourney title, a jump of 5% in gross tickets sold over prior year, a team gpa of 2.75, an NIT bid. 10,000 for making the Big Dance, winning the NIT. I believe 15,000 for making the Sweet Sixteen. Interesting assuming the story was correct. Oh, the contract was for six years when hired. I think he was in year 3. Sounds right based on 76 games. Corrections: HL tourney title- 15,000; Sweet 16-50,000; attendance jump of 5%-15,000. Also 10,000 for each NCAA win in rounds 1 and 2. Freddie Owens is taking over. Wasn’t he at HC? |
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 25, 2023 8:56:48 GMT -5
Will he still get paid his base salary for the next 3 years?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 25, 2023 9:00:32 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 25, 2023 9:21:10 GMT -5
Will Ryan just got canned at Wisconsin Green Bay. 15-61 record there. Sometimes, DNA just isn't enough. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 25, 2023 9:27:24 GMT -5
How many different head coaches for Ryan Wade during his collegiate career? Believe this is his fourth. All the teams he has been part of have been terrible.
2019-20. Holy Cross, 3-29 2020-21. Holy Cross, 5-11 2021-22. C. Michigan, 7-23 2022-23. Green Bay, 2-19 (in progress)
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Post by timholycross on Jan 25, 2023 10:32:41 GMT -5
Meanwhile, E. Michigan picked up Emoni Bates (I guess indirectly he replaced Druzi), the guy's had some incredible games (last night scored 43 points for his team, 29 of his team's points in a row)...and they are something like 4-19.
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Post by cmo on Jan 25, 2023 14:15:23 GMT -5
I like this contract bonus “ attendance jump of 5%-15,000.”
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Post by bison137 on Jan 25, 2023 18:51:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the very appropriate explanation. I find it a bit disconcerting to simultaneously read about how a very successful PL coach did not really start his string of successful seasons until after 6 most disappointing ones while hearing how we need to get rid of a coach whose team seems too be developing through the year. Might have a future upside that we have not yet seen? It is a bit troubling. However, I realize that some really enjoy the discussions of future moves by HC and I have no issue with that. I think that characterization is a bit misleading. Langel inherited a really bad team, but by his third year (2014) they had their best ranking (Pomeroy) since the days of Adonal Foyle. In his fourth year, the team finished PL play with a 12-6 record - their best record since Foyle and their first time over .500 since 2003. In his fifth and sixth seasons, they fell back a bit - but were still much better than Colgate was in the three years prior to Langel's arrival. Also those sub-par years were still light years better than the best teams CBN has had at HC. Here are Colgate's rankings in the three years prior to Langel and then his first nine years: 2009 . 309 2010 . 290 2011 . 314 - - - - - - - - - 2012 . 324 2013 . 269 2014 . 184 2015 . 180 2016 . 256 2017 . 268 2018 . 202 2019 . 126 2020 . 118 For comparison, here are the HC rankings for CBN's four seasons: 2020 . 344 2021 . 304 2022 . 349 2023 . 332 In fairness, it must be noted that there were about 350 teams during Langel's earlier years and recently there have been 357-360 teams, so if you want, bump up Nelson's rankings slightly. One notable item is that CBN's third and fourth seasons have produced an average ranking of 340.5. Langel's third and fourth seasons averaged 182. |
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Post by HC92 on Jan 25, 2023 19:03:45 GMT -5
Good post, 137. What we wouldn’t give to be in the 180s as Langel was in his third and fourth years. We might have finished that high once since RW left.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 7, 2023 14:37:37 GMT -5
Fordham is currently 18-5 (6-4 in A10) and ranked 147th by Pomeroy -- if they were to finish the season ranked here, it would be their highest ranking since 2006-07.
Dave Paulsen was a special advisor to Kyle Neptune last season (when they went 16-16, 8-10) and is an assistant coach this year under Keith Urgo.
We could do a lot worse than him.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 7, 2023 15:03:25 GMT -5
Fordham is currently 18-5 (6-4 in A10) and ranked 147th by Pomeroy -- if they were to finish the season ranked here, it would be their highest ranking since 2006-07. Dave Paulsen was a special advisor to Kyle Neptune last season (when they went 16-16, 8-10) and is an assistant coach this year under Keith Urgo. We could do a lot worse than him. One thing about Paulsen is that most of the credit for the top recruits he brought in at Bucknell went to his two long time assistants: Dane Fischer and Aaron Kelly. Unlikely either of them would be coming with him to a new job. Also he turns 59 late this summer, which some people might find to be an issue. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 7, 2023 15:06:14 GMT -5
Dane Fischer might be looking for a job after this season.
The stars are aligning for him and Paulsen reuniting in Worcester!
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Post by timholycross on Feb 7, 2023 15:07:17 GMT -5
Ralph Willard was 55 or thereabouts when he got hired.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 7, 2023 17:40:54 GMT -5
Dane Fischer might be looking for a job after this season. The stars are aligning for him and Paulsen reuniting in Worcester! I’m pretty sure that Dane Fisher could get a better job than following Paulson to any patriot league position. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 7, 2023 18:01:11 GMT -5
Dane Fischer might be looking for a job after this season. The stars are aligning for him and Paulsen reuniting in Worcester! I’m pretty sure that Dane Fisher could get a better job than following Paulson to any patriot league position. My sarcasm didn't come through in my post. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 17, 2023 20:11:11 GMT -5
In a long article in The Athletic in Jordan Soerber, I came across what may be a new name, Scott Davenport from Bellarmine.
Had Ky75 mentioned him ?
If so, I apologize
Sperber presents the Bellarmine University offense, a kinetic orchestra of passing and cutting and moving and more passing. Coach Scott Davenport long ago turned Bellarmine into a Division II power with the system and has produced similar success at the DI level. On the surface, Sperber’s video breakdown is a quirky look at an unknown school running a weird offense. Tailor-made YouTube content.
But 2 million views don’t just happen. The video is so good because of its construct. The premise is in analytics. Bellarmine is an outlier, Sperber explains, ranking as one of the top-15 most efficient offenses in points per game, despite using the fewest ball screens, by far. The data is deeply nerdy, but highly consumable. So, too, are the Xs and Os that back it up. Sperber doesn’t explain only what Bellarmine is doing, but how. Animated plays are diagrammed and decoded. You’re in the film room.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 17, 2023 20:20:38 GMT -5
Scotty Davenport is a very well respected coach here in the Ville. He coached Ballard High School which has produced some NBA players and was an assistant at U of L. He then moved to Bellarmine Collrge ( now a U) which became a D2 power including winning a national championship. Bellarmine moved to D1 a year or two ago and had been successful including winning a conference championship but being ineligible to go to The Dance. I know a guy who played for him on NCAA champ team and has nothing but good things to say about him. Same for everyone else herein town.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 18, 2023 8:22:18 GMT -5
If we got someone from Bellarmine (assistant, probably); can he bring the logo with him?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 19, 2023 12:02:27 GMT -5
Chesapeake CC (Andy Sachs), now 15-3 - has reeled off ten straight wins and is picking up Top 25 votes in the NJCAA polls. Christopher Newport (John Krikorian), 17-3, currently ranked #5 in D3. Swarthmore (Landry Kosmalski), 15-1. Has moved up steadily in the D3 poll to #10 and has won its last twelve straight. Johns Hopkins (Josh Loeffler), 13-3. Ranked 13th.
Update . . .
Chesapeake CC (23-4) has won eight straight, and eighteen of nineteen. Currently ranked 19th in NJCAA D2 poll. Three games left in the regular season.
Christopher Newport (22-3) completed its regular season at the top of the Coast-to-Coast Athletic Conference. Tournament begins next week. Currently ranked #3 in D3.
Johns Hopkins (22-3) and Swarthmore (22-3) finished the season tied for the Centennial Conference title. Tournament next week. Hopkins currently ranked #8 in D3, Swarthmore #9. Hopkins has won twelve straight since losing to Swarthmore six weeks ago.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 19, 2023 13:05:44 GMT -5
Johns Hopkins oddity: Lincoln Yeutter started more games for Holy Cross than he has started for Johns Hopkins
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