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Post by cruskater31 on Sept 8, 2023 17:33:47 GMT -5
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Post by drjack on Sept 8, 2023 17:37:38 GMT -5
Hopefully their departure pushes Villanova out of the CAA and over here.
I have zero reasoning for this, I just think Nova would fit really well. I'd imagine this would need some league changes regarding schollies and red shirt years, so I'm well aware it's very much not likely.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 8, 2023 19:20:27 GMT -5
Hopefully their departure pushes Villanova out of the CAA and over here. I have zero reasoning for this, I just think Nova would fit really well. I'd imagine this would need some league changes regarding schollies and red shirt years, so I'm well aware it's very much not likely. I think it is more likely that Nova leaves with them to FBS pastures than departs and steps down to the Patriot League. Not that I think either Nova move is likely. On another angle, I'm sure Delaware is wise enough to find a conference home for football before making its move to FBS (if that is what it ultimately does). Independent is not the way to go (IMHO).
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 8, 2023 19:45:14 GMT -5
I wish the Fighting Blue Hens success equal to what UConn and UMass experienced with their FBS moves.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 8, 2023 19:46:44 GMT -5
As a flagship State University on the Atlantic Coast not far from the Mason Dixon line, UD might be more appropriate for the original ACC than BC.
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Post by cruskater31 on Sept 8, 2023 19:49:20 GMT -5
Delaware has Penn State this week, I am sure that will go well. If Maryland was still ACC, I could see a nice little rivalry.
If they go maybe we can invite Nova into a new Yankee Conference. But with the game tomorrow I suppose that's a story for another day!
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Post by timholycross on Sept 8, 2023 23:21:16 GMT -5
Hopefully their departure pushes Villanova out of the CAA and over here. I have zero reasoning for this, I just think Nova would fit really well. I'd imagine this would need some league changes regarding schollies and red shirt years, so I'm well aware it's very much not likely. I think it is more likely that Nova leaves with them to FBS pastures than departs and steps down to the Patriot League. Not that I think either Nova move is likely. On another angle, I'm sure Delaware is wise enough to find a conference home for football before making its move to FBS (if that is what it ultimately does). Independent is not the way to go (IMHO). There's only the Sun Belt and CUSA as possibilities. AAC as a longshot. All 3 have possible opponents in reasonable proximity. The CAA ship be sinking fast.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 9, 2023 4:05:19 GMT -5
Hopefully their departure pushes Villanova out of the CAA and over here. I have zero reasoning for this, I just think Nova would fit really well. I'd imagine this would need some league changes regarding schollies and red shirt years, so I'm well aware it's very much not likely. I think it is more likely that Nova leaves with them to FBS pastures than departs and steps down to the Patriot League. Not that I think either Nova move is likely. On another angle, I'm sure Delaware is wise enough to find a conference home for football before making its move to FBS (if that is what it ultimately does). Independent is not the way to go (IMHO). I think Nova supporters would still cherish remaining in what is a much stronger FCS league. They want to compete for national championships. Yes, Delaware is their football rival but they also have longstanding connection with Richmond and W&M as well. FBS doesn't make sense for Villanova right now. There's no fit unless something happens with the ACC splitting. Then one day, maybe aligning themselves with the likes of Duke, UConn, Pitt, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Temple and the like in both football and hoops could be a possibility.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 9, 2023 4:06:44 GMT -5
Delaware has Penn State this week, I am sure that will go well. If Maryland was still ACC, I could see a nice little rivalry. If they go maybe we can invite Nova into a new Yankee Conference. But with the game tomorrow I suppose that's a story for another day! Technically, Villanova is still in the Yankee Conference.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 9, 2023 20:37:10 GMT -5
I think it is more likely that Nova leaves with them to FBS pastures than departs and steps down to the Patriot League. Not that I think either Nova move is likely. On another angle, I'm sure Delaware is wise enough to find a conference home for football before making its move to FBS (if that is what it ultimately does). Independent is not the way to go (IMHO). I think Nova supporters would still cherish remaining in what is a much stronger FCS league. They want to compete for national championships. Yes, Delaware is their football rival but they also have longstanding connection with Richmond and W&M as well. FBS doesn't make sense for Villanova right now. There's no fit unless something happens with the ACC splitting. Then one day, maybe aligning themselves with the likes of Duke, UConn, Pitt, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Temple and the like in both football and hoops could be a possibility. No State of Villanova to build them a new stadium, a la UConn.
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Post by hc69 on Sept 10, 2023 10:39:07 GMT -5
They got smoked 63-7 by PSU yesterday. Leave one of the three best FCS conferences and go FBS? Makes perfect sense . . .
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 10, 2023 10:48:33 GMT -5
Hey, it worked for UConn and UMass...didn't it?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 10, 2023 11:35:10 GMT -5
They got smoked 63-7 by PSU yesterday. Leave one of the three best FCS conferences and go FBS? Makes perfect sense . . . I think Delaware looks at Temple, JMU and ODU as potential peers. Hence why I think they'll push to get into either the Sun Belt or AAC. Honestly, the CAA is still a good league but not what it used to be in either football or basketball. The CAA is done a great job of continuing to grab amy school on the up-and-up on the eastern seaboard to backfill the likes of VCU, Mason, ODU and James Madison. Not to mention Hoftsra and Northeastern dropping football but remaining in for other sports. But you wonder how if the more traditional programs (W&M, Richmond, Delaware, Nova) look into other options in the future. Bryant will be Delaware's all-sports replacement if they leave, and are already in for football. The other CAA school I could see trying to move onward and upward is College of Charleston. And then who do they go after? Queens University? Wofford? Merrimack? CAA has been somewhat of a revolving door over the past 10-12 years but they've generally been successful in finding upstart schools and programs to backfill.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 10, 2023 11:48:06 GMT -5
Delaware was ranked #19 last week. A #19 shouldn't be rolled over by a good PSU team.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 10, 2023 12:00:31 GMT -5
Leagues may come and leagues may go but our much admired Patriot League continues on. Stability with a high academic profile. Doesn't get muchbetter for HC and our fellow PL institutions.
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Post by gks on Sept 10, 2023 15:57:56 GMT -5
Leagues may come and leagues may go but our much admired Patriot League continues on. Stability with a high academic profile. Doesn't get muchbetter for HC and our fellow PL institutions. This sounds like a press release out of an office located in a strip mall in Allentown.
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Post by hc69 on Sept 10, 2023 16:09:24 GMT -5
Delaware was ranked #19 last week. A #19 shouldn't be rolled over by a good PSU team. The difference between the #7 team in FBS and the #19 team in FCS is measured in days. The difference between the #7 team in FBS and the #5 team in FCS is measured in time zones. A bad BC team put up 31 on us. How many PSU would put up on us would be determined largely by when Franklin pulled his starters.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 10, 2023 16:19:03 GMT -5
Leagues may come and leagues may go but our much admired Patriot League continues on. Stability with a high academic profile. Doesn't get muchbetter for HC and our fellow PL institutions. Not that my two cents matter, but I agree the PL works for another year or two. After that we will need more, and in the opinion of one, the Holy Cross community deserves more.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 10, 2023 16:20:44 GMT -5
Delaware was ranked #19 last week. A #19 shouldn't be rolled over by a good PSU team. I don’t know. Penn State is ranked 7 in the AP and Coaches poll. With the usual exceptions and qualifiers, I’d expect Penn State to win 77-7 (or worse) if they gassed it for 4 quarters. A couple of years ago I watched Nova v Penn state and saw Nova score two meaningless 4th quarter TD’s after Penn State put in their 6th string, some old guys from the stands, and a bewildered hot dog vendor. The final score sounded respectable. But it could have been 60-3 or thereabouts if Penn State wanted that.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 10, 2023 16:37:22 GMT -5
We streamed 8 or 9 FCS/FBS- FCS games with the kids and most grandkids yesterday. Yes, we made a day of it - with purple and white everywhere in the house. The purple cake and vanilla ice cream was enjoyed by most.
With that said there are about 10 teams right now that can win in Frisco, and the Crusaders are among the top seven and you can put them in your preferred order—Holy Cross, Central Arkansas,Southern Illinois, New Hampshire, Wiliam and Mary, Montana State and South Dakota State. The Jack Rabbits are not the same team, and yesterday they were good and very lucky.
All of this could change in the next week, but for now we need to win each week and stay healthy.
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Post by mainejeff on Sept 14, 2023 10:22:26 GMT -5
William & Mary fans want Holy Cross to be an all-sports add to replace Delaware if they leave. You guys game?
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Post by gks on Sept 14, 2023 10:48:20 GMT -5
William & Mary fans want Holy Cross to be an all-sports add to replace Delaware if they leave. You guys game? This would be the biggest no brainer in the history of the Earth for most of us.
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Post by lou on Sept 14, 2023 10:49:02 GMT -5
I have easy access to Lehigh, Lafayette, Fordham and Colgate away games so I'll stick with the PL
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Post by timholycross on Sept 14, 2023 10:51:30 GMT -5
If it were the CAA of 10 or so years ago, yes. Hampton? NC A&T? Campbell? No thank you.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 14, 2023 11:26:16 GMT -5
Not as long as Flo Sports is the media partner. Time for CAA to negotiate with ESPN+.
Then I would have to consider the long term impact to HC Athletics. Can’t see where the current CAA would be beneficial due to the current mixture of large public and private institutions.
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