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Post by hchoops on Dec 30, 2016 21:12:20 GMT -5
The PO is vs a man D only. BU played 80-90% zone They packed in their zone. The twos we got, we missed. We had many threes, almost all open looks.after the hot start, we missed those also.
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Post by hcnation on Dec 30, 2016 21:14:17 GMT -5
The PO is vs a man D only. BU played 80-90% zone They packed in their zone. The twos we got, we missed. We had many threes, almost all open looks.after the hot start, we missed those also. Thanks
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Post by hchoops on Dec 30, 2016 21:16:23 GMT -5
The PO is vs a man D only. BU played 80-90% zone They packed in their zone. The twos we got, we missed. We had many threes, almost all open looks.after the hot start, we missed those also. Thanks You are welcome
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Post by bikeman on Dec 30, 2016 21:16:43 GMT -5
No more complaints here about lack of student and local fan support. A team that plays like this, on school vacation, doesn't deserve it.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 30, 2016 21:18:52 GMT -5
No more complaints here about lack of student and local fan support. A team that plays like this, on school vacation, doesn't deserve it. I. Believe that this was said last season also
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Post by hc87 on Dec 30, 2016 21:24:49 GMT -5
This is fundamentally not a good team in toto.....no interior presence outside off MA (and maybe JF), no one that can stroke it consistently beside RC (how would Hahn have looked tonight btw?), in general not a tough/strong team...not very deep either....other than that Mrs Lincoln....
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Post by hchoops on Dec 30, 2016 21:28:41 GMT -5
This is fundamentally not a good team in toto.....no interior presence outside off MA (and maybe JF), no one that can stroke it consistently beside RC (how would Hahn have looked tonight btw?), in general not a tough/strong team...not very deep either....other than that Mrs Lincoln.... Some valid points, but of the 5 who take the most 3s, RC has the 4th highest %.
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Post by ncaam on Dec 30, 2016 21:37:27 GMT -5
Only one loss....on the road...big game home with Navy next
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Post by hchoops on Dec 30, 2016 21:42:05 GMT -5
I believe that we will see many zones the rest of the way.
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Post by joe on Dec 30, 2016 21:42:55 GMT -5
Tough to beat BU with a 7 man rotation. Gotta hit the foul line jumper. MA and KC gotta take it to the hole more, particularly since we seem to love the 3 ball, as this will open it back up.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 30, 2016 21:47:02 GMT -5
The pace was slow, the game was not especially physical. We were in no real foul trouble.The problem was not 7 players. Hard to take it to the hole when the d is packed in a zone. Agree with having to hit the foul line J.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 30, 2016 21:48:48 GMT -5
Clayton Le Sann shoots threes - that's what he was recruited to do. If fourteen games into the season, against a team that is packing in a zone and letting us shoot open threes, when everybody else is throwing bricks, he can't get a minute of court time . . .
I understand that freshmen can develop slowly - but I can't remember an HC freshman class that has, collectively, been as irrelevant as this one.
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Post by ncaam on Dec 30, 2016 21:58:23 GMT -5
Nails it...MH was tired in 2nd half....the cream came to top...BU, bu and Lehigh victorious
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Post by hcnation on Dec 30, 2016 22:12:11 GMT -5
That was a horrific second half. How can you lose when the other team doesn't score a field goal for the last 11 min of the game?! HC just found a way. HC only had a 3 pointer by AT and then layup with 52 seconds by MA during that drought
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Post by sader81 on Dec 30, 2016 22:13:28 GMT -5
Attended the game and sat near a few posters. Enjoyed seeing NAD's influence on '92's boys! Got to make baskets if you expect to win. The team just makes no effort to get offensive rebounds - when the ball is shot, 3-4 players head down courtt to stop the transition. If you are not shooting it, it's tough to win that way, especially on the road.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 30, 2016 22:19:14 GMT -5
Agree with ncaam: a space-eating, rebounding, banger on the blocks is sorely needed, as this kind of player can mask poor shooting nites. Need to find a T-Cliff clone.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 30, 2016 22:21:25 GMT -5
The team just makes no effort to get offensive rebounds - when the ball is shot, 3-4 players head down court to stop the transition. This is a trademark of all Carmody's teams - it's not going to change.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 30, 2016 22:39:38 GMT -5
The PO is vs a man D only. BU played 80-90% zone They packed in their zone. The twos we got, we missed. We had many threes, almost all open looks.after the hot start, we missed those also. Just because 3's are open, does not mean they are good shots. We played right into how BU wanted us to play. 58% of our shots were 3's, that is insanity.
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Post by Crosser on Dec 30, 2016 22:52:28 GMT -5
The team needs to pick itself up off the canvas, re-group, and get ready for Navy. The continued losing of winnable games has got to stop I believe that they're better than they've shown so far. The team needs to believe it too.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 30, 2016 22:57:07 GMT -5
What's the consolation prize for the Turnpike Trophy?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 30, 2016 22:58:44 GMT -5
I believe that we will see many zones the rest of the way. Hoops -- Do you think we should speed up the pace of the game if teams take this strategy against us? While our half court zone produces turnovers, it does not produce turnovers that turn into easy baskets at the other end. If we are going to slow the game to a snails pace on defense while allowing opposing teams to shoot an extremely high % inside the 3-point line, not emphasize rebounding, and then not be able to get into the PO because teams are just packing in a zone and daring us to shoot 3's, I don't see how we're going to be consistently successful. Speeding up the tempo and extending our defense will give us a chance to get more easy baskets, and while a press always creates a risk of allowing a couple easy baskets for the opponent, our halfcourt defense already allows a ton of those, so it's not like we'll really be at a disadvantage there.
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Post by dadominate on Dec 30, 2016 22:59:26 GMT -5
There's a very ugly trend developing of the team playing with no life, emotion, energy, fire, and the more and more it happens, the more and more it looks like a coaching issue. how on earth can you say champion played with no emotion tonight? we saw plenty of fire out of him, maybe even too much as he was on the verge of a technical at one point. or that benzan played with no energy? he was his usual sparkplug self, despite a relatively poor game. or that charles played with no energy? he was diving for loose balls all over the damn place and took at least two big shots to the face in the process, never backing down. husek was fired up after knocking down some big shots. even thompson, whose sulking and awful body language i often criticized last year, has been playing with more energy and poise this year. this team definitely has weaknesses and we played extremely poorly tonight on the offensive end, but we were not lacking in life, emotion, energy, or fire. you want to criticize our inability to attack the zone tonight and put that on carmody? i would disagree that it's all on carmody as we got plenty of open perimeter looks and missed a bunch of layups, but i could at least understand that criticism. i personally think the lineups carmody put out on the floor did us no favors against the zone. having thompson (who has the worst shooting percentage in holy cross history... no matter how desperately you try to spin that most unfortunate fact) and benzan (who is extremely hesitant to even attempt shots from the perimeter) on the court at the same time so often against a tightly packed zone with husek (who was shooting the ball very well... again, no matter how desperately you try to minimize his contributions) on the bench much of that time makes no sense to me. if husek was gassed, then at least give ziggy or lesann some burn for a few minutes. so i could get that criticism of carmody's execution tonight and would even say that i share it. you've made it abundantly clear to us that you don't care for the objective statistics that essentially every credible basketball analyst relies upon, and instead you favor the completely subjective of what you see (such as this quoted gem of an analysis), but you are stretching once again with yet another head scratcher of an analysis here. we played like crap offensively tonight and it cost us the game, but calling out the effort of our players and concluding that this is carmody's fault is yet another manifestation of your inability to accurately evaluate a basketball game and what can be no better described as a critical obsession with the coaching staff.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 30, 2016 23:01:24 GMT -5
Met 92 at the game and first time I sat near his sons. Have to say that other than there frequent shuttles back and forth to the concession stand, their cheering was impressive. Not sure if it was because I was in the middle of it but the "DEE-FENCE" and "GO CROSS GO" cheers by "Sons of '92" seemed loud and encouraging for the Crusaders. Nice contingent of Purple-clad folks at the game.
Unfortunately, the game played out somewhat as I expected (and predicted the HC loss). We just don't have the consistency of play needed to win these tight games. We were hitting everything from outside and matching BU 3s for 3s except MA stone cold in much of the first half. To those who don't watch us play often, one might have thought we were going to blow them out. A 7 player rotation is going to be a killer toward the end of a close game when legs are tired causing shots to be just a little short and defenders getting into position just a wee bit late allowing an uncontested shot or making a foul or getting beat going after a loose ball.
And, yes, I still hate the 2 small guards in at the same time.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 30, 2016 23:01:28 GMT -5
What's the consolation prize for the Turnpike Trophy? LOL. I think it's unlimited supply of "#RiseTogether" hashtags to try and shoehorn into every social media post.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 30, 2016 23:07:58 GMT -5
There's a very ugly trend developing of the team playing with no life, emotion, energy, fire, and the more and more it happens, the more and more it looks like a coaching issue. ..... yet another manifestation of your inability to accurately evaluate a basketball game and what can be no better described as a critical obsession with the coaching staff. You are completely delusional.
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