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Post by hc17 on Apr 14, 2020 19:33:53 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2020 19:37:56 GMT -5
Wow
Coulibaly commit is so important now
Wonder if we are looking for another big this year ?
Would not be surprised(by anything)
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Post by HCFC45 on Apr 14, 2020 19:40:10 GMT -5
Wow! Get the velcro name patches out for the uniforms... we will need them! Total roster makeover!
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 19:45:14 GMT -5
Despite the positives in recruiting his departure is so very disappointing on multiple fronts. A class of six is down to two-not good no matter the explanation and the more you explain the more you lose. George had his thoughts for the day-his game plan- and while a different time, these departures are incredibly disruptive.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 14, 2020 19:49:06 GMT -5
Another guy not a great fit for what Nelson wants to do. Down to two players who have played more than one season for us. Faw and Butler. Hope he finds a good fit for his skills.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 14, 2020 19:49:56 GMT -5
The insanity continues.
Possible explanation--- could he be looking to play two more years, i.e. be granted a redshirt (he played 10 of 33 games before injury in 18-19), and this would get him some free graduate school? Perhaps he asked coach Nelson about a redshirt year--to double major at HC--and Coach turned him down?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 14, 2020 19:53:47 GMT -5
Some very impressive editing on that highlight tape — surprised he’s not headed straight to the NBA!
And this tweet is simply absurd:
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 14, 2020 19:55:28 GMT -5
The insanity continues. Possible explanation--- could he be looking to play two more years, i.e. be granted a redshirt (he played 10 of 33 games before injury in 18-19), and this would get him some free graduate school? Perhaps he asked coach Nelson about a redshirt year--to double major at HC--and Coach turned him down? Unless he gets a waiver, he’s not going to be able to use an injury redshirt and transfer redshirt, resulting in 6 years to play 4 seasons. |
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 19:56:42 GMT -5
Ky-My thoughts as well, and if true gives me pause about the coach.
It would be different if Niego was not contributing, but ....
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Post by HC92 on Apr 14, 2020 19:58:38 GMT -5
The insanity continues. Possible explanation--- could he be looking to play two more years, i.e. be granted a redshirt (he played 10 of 33 games before injury in 18-19), and this would get him some free graduate school? Perhaps he asked coach Nelson about a redshirt year--to double major at HC--and Coach turned him down? Unless he gets a waiver, he’s not going to be able to use an injury redshirt and transfer redshirt, resulting in 6 years to play 4 seasons. Niego clearly believes he has two years left. I suspect he knows something about this topic. |
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 20:00:14 GMT -5
Some very impressive editing on that highlight tape — surprised he’s not headed straight to the NBA! And this tweet is simply absurd: If Grandison can get a scholarship to Illinois, my guess is Niego, the much tougher player, has a better future on the right roster. in the near term Nelson will regret his departure |
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2020 20:02:58 GMT -5
Niego imo is not tougher or more skilled than Grandison.
I doubt Niego will have any Big 10 or comparable offers.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 14, 2020 20:03:43 GMT -5
Nelson definitely had a plan with what he was going to do with some of the guys on this roster when he took over as head coach.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 14, 2020 20:05:05 GMT -5
Ky-My thoughts as well, and if true gives me pause about the coach. It would be different if Niego was not contributing, but .... 8.2 PPG in 30 MPG for a last place PL team. The future of this program is not impacted by Connor Niego being here for 1-2 more years (if he was the high major player that his AAU twitter accounts are claiming, he would have grad transferred for the 5th year). Next year is going to be another transition year with or without Niego. After that, it will be about what Nelson can do with Pridgen and the other recruits, who I am expecting to be stronger contributors than Niego. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 14, 2020 20:09:37 GMT -5
Current scholarship players by class:
Frosh (6): Johnson, Humphrey, Montgomery, Martindale, Coulibaly, Rabinovich
Soph (3): Wade, Pridgen, Reilly
Jr: (1) Townsel
Sr (2): Butler, Faw
If we replace Niego, best case would be a big guy with one or two years left who is immediately eligible. If we can’t find one of those, I’d hold it for next year and have 3 to work with.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 20:11:22 GMT -5
Hoops
Didn’t say more talented-but imo not even close as a competitor, I would take Niego every day over Grandison, who I thought was talented but soft, and because of that found ways to hide for big minutes which were costly.
Don’t think Grandison, with the attitude he had with HC, was more than a PL player. So if people like Grandison’s game, Niego could find a similar opportunity in the MAC or elsewhere. Not saying either contributes at that level, but not saying they won’t.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 14, 2020 20:14:20 GMT -5
MAC or MVC for Niego.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 20:15:12 GMT -5
Nelson definitely had a plan with what he was going to do with some of the guys on this roster when he took over as head coach. Agree but it might have an odor to it, if the plan was to run off players and rebuild faster. not saying the change to the future isn’t critical, but if the approach was to purge and move ahead, I am not sure that is part of the HC culture or values. will be interested to watch his development as a bench coach |
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Post by HCFC45 on Apr 14, 2020 20:15:23 GMT -5
After seeing what has transpired in this post basketball season and looking back at Camp Nelson, the 2019 - 2020 season, it seems rather obvious that Nelson looked at what he had, concluded we ain't got much here, then worked their a$$e$ off in practice and games, proving to the players themselves that they did not have what it takes to WIN!
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 20:27:47 GMT -5
Ky-My thoughts as well, and if true gives me pause about the coach. It would be different if Niego was not contributing, but .... 8.2 PPG in 30 MPG for a last place PL team. The future of this program is not impacted by Connor Niego being here for 1-2 more years (if he was the high major player that his AAU twitter accounts are claiming, he would have grad transferred for the 5th year). Next year is going to be another transition year with or without Niego. After that, it will be about what Nelson can do with Pridgen and the other recruits, who I am expecting to be stronger contributors than Niego. You are right the future doesn’t depend on any one player, but culture matters. You have been consistently screaming for a change in culture, but not sure if we all agree this is the best culture for HC. I guess time will tell. While we all want to win, values and character matter. Just seems odd that we keep losing players that lived up to their commitment with his questionable offensive and defensive philosophy this year giving them little or no chance to win. if we experience the same level of turnover next year, then we will have our answer |
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 20:33:44 GMT -5
After seeing what has transpired in this post basketball season and looking back at Camp Nelson, the 2019 - 2020 season, it seems rather obvious that Nelson looked at what he had, concluded we ain't got much here, then worked their a$$e$ off in practice and games, proving to the players themselves that they did not have what it takes to WIN! Agree he found a way to tell them they didn’t fit for his style. but experienced coaches take the talent they have and prepare the team to win games with a plan that has a chance for success. There was no game plan in the past season that made you feel we were prepared and had a plan that played to the strength of the roster. that is on Nelson, but I will give him a pass based on his youthful exuberance and wanting to believe he is right maturity and experience matter |
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 14, 2020 20:35:42 GMT -5
I have been waiting for Niego to take his remaining two years of eligibility elsewhere. He got the red shirt cleared some time ago. I hoped he would continue to develop at HC and to use the two years here, but that will not be the case. I wish him well. The only real downside in this is that we need to hear more made-up conspiracy stories for some time more.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2020 20:35:56 GMT -5
Hoops Didn’t say more talented-but imo not even close as a competitor, I would take Niego every day over Grandison, who I thought was talented but soft, and because of that found ways to hide for big minutes which were costly. Don’t think Grandison, with the attitude he had with HC, was more than a PL player. So if people like Grandison’s game, Niego could find a similar opportunity in the MAC or elsewhere. Not saying either contributes at that level, but not saying they won’t. We can agree to disagree about who is tougher.or a better competitor Neither is Keith Hochstein or Mile Vicens, but one stat—career Rebounds Grandison 4.8– not impressive Niego—3.4 —less impressive |
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Post by sarasota on Apr 14, 2020 20:38:08 GMT -5
Niego knew that he wasn't going to get important minutes next season. Period.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 14, 2020 20:42:40 GMT -5
Agree Hoops as I don’t see either as more than a solid PL player, but obviously Grandison moved up and Niego could as well on the right roster. Contributing at the next level for either player remains a big unknown
Personally I think Niego is the bigger loss, especially with two years left
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