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Post by hchoops on May 11, 2022 13:38:37 GMT -5
Many high quality wings(2 & 3) even at top schools struggle to bring the ball up against pressure. This is why more top teams are starting two point guards.
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Post by dharry13 on May 11, 2022 15:30:32 GMT -5
May 11th and no Point Guard. What's the wait? By my count, HC has 5 guards on the roster. If 2-3 can't bring the ball upcourt, even against the press, and set up the offense, we have a real problem. I do wish RJ had stayed, moreso than K Luc, but let's not make this more complicated than necessary. Back in the day, HC had a 6'7" point forward who was a great outlet against the press. They are basketball players, some of whom are used to having the ball in their hands regularly. The age of specialization has spun out of control. It has led to things like an NFL roster spot set aside for a long snapper. Isn't that what centers did for 50 years? I respectfully disagree with this take. There is a reason why 95% of the programs have a designated point guard. Most specifically to distribute the basketball, but also to break down pressure, to have the ball in their hands at the end of the game to hit free throws, to defend smaller quicker players, etc. We can't just use the above argument because HC doesn't have one. HC watched their top 2 point guards leave the program. They've known it for a little bit. It should be priority #1. Brutal - again. Brutal meaning the Coach.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 11, 2022 15:38:46 GMT -5
At this point our best hope is that we can last-minute find Dee Goens 2.0...and that the 6'11" transfer from Indiana State turns out to be Greg McCarthy 2.0.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 11, 2022 16:46:45 GMT -5
At this point our best hope is that we can last-minute find Dee Goens 2.0...and that the 6'11" transfer from Indiana State turns out to be Greg McCarthy 2.0. I don’t think Dee Goens 2.0 and the next Greg McCarthy will get the job done.
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 11, 2022 17:21:19 GMT -5
I think Wilbar could make us better defensively right away in the paint (and off the boards), which have been weaknesses. If he's going to continue to take 60%+ of his shots from deep, maybe he'll become Matt Husek 2.0 (16-17 edition).
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 11, 2022 17:30:29 GMT -5
I don't think Jave Meade and Josh Sankes are walking through that door at this point in the recruiting calendar, when we have a lame duck head coach and a program in total shambles.
The fact that 2 of our big portal targets are currently students at Belmont Abbey tells us everything we need to know.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 11, 2022 17:31:48 GMT -5
I think Wilbar could make us better defensively right away in the paint (and off the boards), which have been weaknesses. If he's going to continue to take 60%+ of his shots from deep, maybe he'll become Matt Husek 2.0 (16-17 edition). Husek was certainly a late bloomer. I remember enjoying watching him during his final year and having a "What! How is he a senior already?" moment.
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Post by longsuffering on May 11, 2022 17:48:36 GMT -5
I don't think Jave Meade and Josh Sankes are walking through that door at this point in the recruiting calendar, when we have a lame duck head coach and a program in total shambles. The fact that 2 of our big portal targets are currently students at Belmont Abbey tells us everything we need to know. I've been holding out hope that better players have misjudged their appeal to power league teams and with scholarships still available we could get lucky. No sign of that so far.
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Post by trimster on May 11, 2022 18:01:31 GMT -5
I don't think Jave Meade and Josh Sankes are walking through that door at this point in the recruiting calendar, when we have a lame duck head coach and a program in total shambles. The fact that 2 of our big portal targets are currently students at Belmont Abbey tells us everything we need to know. Yes it does but the college is by all indications, content to be in a very low level of D1 basketball. I realize the men's hoop program is part of a larger picture but it has all the trappings of a barely D1 program.
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Post by longsuffering on May 11, 2022 18:40:34 GMT -5
The trick is to swim closer to big time while avoiding the steaming cesspool. I would put seven figure coach salaries like at UMass ($8.5 million over five years) as at least starting to stink if not in the cesspool.
Nothing stinky about high merit pay in a vacuum, but when you only have 3000 students and twenty-six sports, many of which are underfunded, I'd have to hold my nose if HC inked that deal to improve BB.
I think we have to have an AD who can identify coaching talent on the way up like FADNP did with Coach Chesney. Or get lucky like FADNP did with Coach Chesney, whichever you prefer.
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 11, 2022 18:53:18 GMT -5
Many high quality wings(2 & 3) even at top schools struggle to bring the ball up against pressure. This is why more top teams are starting two point guards. Huh? There were a total of 2 point guards in the Final Four (Jeremy Roche & Collin Gillespie), and the two teams in the National Championship didn't have any true point guards (Caleb & RJ Davis + Dajuan Harris are all combo guards). College basketball has unfortunately regressed towards the NBA game, where very few teams are running true offensive sets and there is an over-reliance upon 1-on-1 play and chucking up 3's. In this new (not good) age, there is less of a need to have a true PG. (Once again, I am not advocating for HC to not have a PG. I am hopeful that Nolan Dorsey has shown something to the staff in offseason workouts and that there is another PG on the way, as I would much rather see Bo be able to focus on excelling on the wing.)
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Post by hchoops on May 11, 2022 19:55:23 GMT -5
R.J. Davis was a true point in HS for four years and only moved to 2 guard as a freshman at UNC since Love was promised to play the point as a freshman to be a one and done at point for the NBA. That did not work out. When RJ was moved solely to point this season is when UNC made their move toward winning a lot.
Kansas’ Remy Martin was a scoring point for them down the stretch, but was not a major factor in the Final 4.
Moore was effective at the point for Nova when Gillespie was hurt and may be their point next season. When they played together, it was in effect a 2 point guard offense.
For Duke Wendell Moore often played point when Roach was not starting and I think led Duke in assists.When they played together Duke was in effect playing two point guards.
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Post by efg72 on May 11, 2022 20:28:06 GMT -5
Encourage all to keep praying-sometimes prayers are answered
But until the major organizational change is made it is more like blind hope-
Lenten season taught me to say little and observe
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Post by longsuffering on May 11, 2022 20:40:28 GMT -5
Encourage all to keep praying-sometimes prayers are answered But until the major organizational change is made it is more like blind hope- Lenten season taught me to say little and observe That's no fun. How would you move the pieces around in a major organizational change? Or are you referring to a MBB head coach change only which would meet that description also.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 11, 2022 20:42:28 GMT -5
I think Wilbar could make us better defensively right away in the paint (and off the boards), which have been weaknesses. If he's going to continue to take 60%+ of his shots from deep, maybe he'll become Matt Husek 2.0 (16-17 edition). I have not seen any of SW’s games, but if you give any credence to sports-reference.com’s statistical calculations you may be happy to hear that, among all ISU players with 200+ minutes played he had the second best defensive rating. That rating, likely boosted by the fact that ISU had a better overall defense than HC did, was better than any HC player with 200+ minutes. Wouldn’t that be great if he was a solid defender?
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Post by efg72 on May 11, 2022 21:11:10 GMT -5
Encourage all to keep praying-sometimes prayers are answered But until the major organizational change is made it is more like blind hope- Lenten season taught me to say little and observe That's no fun. How would you move the pieces around in a major organizational change? Or are you referring to a MBB head coach change only which would meet that description also. I leave that for you and others to make that call
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Post by longsuffering on May 11, 2022 21:40:29 GMT -5
That's no fun. How would you move the pieces around in a major organizational change? Or are you referring to a MBB head coach change only which would meet that description also. I leave that for you and others to make that call Kimberly Stiles came to HC as head softball coach with a career 275-232 record as a head coach and a winning record in her last six seasons. That's 275 more wins than Coaches Nelson, Lachapelle and Riga had combined when they arrived. If FADMB was beginning to understand how HC can have a chance to succeed at the entry level of D-1, I approve of that change in thinking at least.
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Post by hchoops on May 11, 2022 22:35:15 GMT -5
Hoops roster ? Maybe shift to the other sports page
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 12, 2022 5:45:22 GMT -5
I don't think Jave Meade and Josh Sankes are walking through that door at this point in the recruiting calendar, when we have a lame duck head coach and a program in total shambles. The fact that 2 of our big portal targets are currently students at Belmont Abbey tells us everything we need to know. I've been holding out hope that better players have misjudged their appeal to power league teams and with scholarships still available we could get lucky. No sign of that so far. We have to hope there are a couple guys in the portal that were aiming higher than the low-major level and who are now just looking to land with a full scholarship at the best academic school possible, and are willing to throw caution to the wind with regards to the current status of the coach and basketball program that comes with that school.
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Post by sader1970 on May 12, 2022 7:17:41 GMT -5
"Dream, Dream, Dream"
[Great song and the best singing duo ever!]
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Post by timholycross on May 12, 2022 10:18:03 GMT -5
D2 is the next level below the Patriot League and comparable conferences, is it not?
Nothing wrong w/looking at players who want to move up from that. In a different era, if the rules were the same as today, wouldn't some Assumption player or players looked good in purple?
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Post by Ignutz on May 12, 2022 11:47:28 GMT -5
D2 is the next level below the Patriot League and comparable conferences, is it not? Nothing wrong w/looking at players who want to move up from that. In a different era, if the rules were the same as today, wouldn't some Assumption player or players looked good in purple? Jim Boylan Given that he was acceptable to Al Maguire at Marquette, I expect that he'd have been acceptable to George Blaney.
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Post by hchoops on May 12, 2022 11:49:31 GMT -5
If he was acceptable to Anne McDermott.
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Post by longsuffering on May 12, 2022 12:06:47 GMT -5
Jim Halpin at the time I believe. I interviewed with him. He was great.
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Post by mm67 on May 12, 2022 12:59:33 GMT -5
Honest Al Maguire. An insider told me, Al was truly a wonderful coach, a great leader and a great man. This is second hand but I would hope that some day HC would have this kind of BB coach once again. Of course many believed the same about Blaney, the great & Willard had his admirers too. I admired Frank Offering for his demeanor and apparent integrity. Let us hope that some how young Brett Nelson meets this standard. And, I do not smoke weed. HA!!!!
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