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Post by sader1970 on Nov 21, 2019 14:22:47 GMT -5
And even then we are co-champs but don’t get the auto bid to NCAA which would go to Laffy on the tie-breaker.
An at-large bid would be VERY unlikely.
JUST WIN!!!’
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Post by moose1970 on Nov 21, 2019 16:26:10 GMT -5
so your glass is half Always. Worry is something I learned to make a basic part of my coping, including coaching, lecturing, planning and my personal life (as a parent/grandparent). to paraphrase groucho, "would i really want to root for a school that would accept me "
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 21, 2019 17:32:41 GMT -5
We could always join the CAA. It would be interesting to see if another team like CCSU or a PL foe joined us. Maybe when JMU goes FBS. One can dream! I am sure we can come up with 10,000 reasons why TPTB at HC would never go for this Yes, and many reasons why the rest of the PL wouldn't want to approve of us having our cake and eating it too.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 21, 2019 18:06:20 GMT -5
And even then we are co-champs but don’t get the auto bid to NCAA which would go to Laffy on the tie-breaker. An at-large bid would be VERY unlikely. JUST WIN!!!’ We are as likely to getan at-large to the FCS playoffs as UCONN is to making the 4-team College Football Playoff.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 21, 2019 18:54:31 GMT -5
/\ The idea of which football team to admit to the CAA following the speculative departure of JMU is a subject of great discussion on CAA message boards (and has been for several years). There is a long line of teams who would want in (would be great if HC was in that speculative line and especially great if CAA wanted them.) As you note, it is nice to dream - CAA football and status quo in all the other sports is a nice combo IMHO. When JMU leaves (and Bridgeforth Stadium wasn't expanded for games with Elon and URI) the CAA will have some options, including one or two MEAC schools who would like in as well. But conference membership is about budgets, scholarships, and full time coaches, and that's what conferences are looking for, not just a name. A move by HC would burn a lot of bridges because it would mean the end of PL football--the league bylaws (at least through 2013) required a minimum of five full members to sponsor any sport. Assuming American or BU doesn't magically create a 60 scholarship program in the interim, only four PL schools would be sponsoring the sport within the league if HC left. Conversely, if Fordham left, the five member rule would still be in effect. Considering how HC missed all the tectonic shifts in the Big East and when a school like Xavier roared right past them to get in line, HC wasn't even in the conversation. At 70, Fr. Boroughs would be happy to stay in the PL indefinitely because it doesn't force the question on what aspirations the program has.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 21, 2019 23:33:42 GMT -5
HC will never leave the PL for football...it's the reason/sport why the PL née Colonial League exists in the first place. Our problem, such as it is, is that the league morphed into an all sports league about 5 years after the Colonial League was created for football. Our Olympic sports have never really been that competitive in the PL and really our signature sport, basketball, was relegated to low-mid-major status in playing in the PL.. Other than that, it's worked out great for us athletically.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2019 2:09:09 GMT -5
We are entombed in the PL. Let's beat the Hoyas on Saturday and make a good showing in the FCS playoffs. That will help steel us for watching MBB rebuild.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2019 7:25:13 GMT -5
The choice of the PL is not about avoiding the question on the school's aspirations. It is about school policy, namely, HC is happy to be playing football in a conference with like-minded schools with similar academic standards. Aspirations, as defined by the school over many years, have been met by competing as a member of the PL. The CAA simply is not a good fit. No question about it. LoveHC I haven not seen a suggestion that HC try to join the CAA and play all its sports therein. I have made the suggestion that our football program would be better served in the CAA (this is not to say the CAA would necessarily have room for us or even want us if they had room). I would not conflate the two notions .
I do not think our association with Atlantic Hockey (where the schools may or may not be like-minded regarding academic standards) is a bad thing.
I'll accept the assertion that PL current bylaws on football ( which have proved to be pretty flexible in the past) require 5 full members. There was a time when football was non-schollie. Things change.
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Post by crusader12 on Nov 22, 2019 7:48:45 GMT -5
If Holy Cross wins, every single PL team (other than HC) will have an overall record sub .500. Has the league ever been this bad?
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2019 8:17:24 GMT -5
Probably...but too lazy to look it up.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2019 8:21:43 GMT -5
If Holy Cross wins, every single PL team (other than HC) will have an overall record sub .500. Has the league ever been this bad? I think just last year only the PL champ (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or above.
The year before last, only one team (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or better
So this is by no means our (PL football's) first stinko year.
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Post by classof83 on Nov 22, 2019 9:32:33 GMT -5
For anyone who thinks that Georgetown has nothing to play for - with a win they would have their first winning record since 2011.
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Post by 6sader7 on Nov 22, 2019 10:03:41 GMT -5
I hope for (and expect) the best. But, there is this nagging feeling in the pit of my stomach that something will happen to derail our trip to the playoffs and an overall winning season. Probably silly, but stranger things have happened...more than once over the years. I feel 180-degrees opposite. I think we’re going to see the most complete home game of the season on Saturday. By the time the LC-LU game gets underway at 12:30, no one at Fitton will have any reason to be scoreboard checking. Where are we playing next weekend? Why would anyone not go into Saturday with this mentality?
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2019 11:30:24 GMT -5
The post Duffner 28 years?
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Post by 6sader7 on Nov 22, 2019 11:51:33 GMT -5
The post Duffner 28 years? The good news is you don't have to suffer anymore, you can just find something else to do with your free time.
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Post by moose1970 on Nov 22, 2019 12:26:49 GMT -5
If Holy Cross wins, every single PL team (other than HC) will have an overall record sub .500. Has the league ever been this bad? I think just last year only the PL champ (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or above.
The year before last, only one team (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or better
So this is by no means our (PL football's) first stinko year.
NFL clubs have qualified for playoffs as a wildcard team by playing .500 during regular season. have not heard any complaints about that. always felt that you should win more than lose to qualify for the post-season but again i hold the minotity view.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 22, 2019 12:32:03 GMT -5
If Holy Cross wins, every single PL team (other than HC) will have an overall record sub .500. Has the league ever been this bad? I think just last year only the PL champ (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or above.
The year before last, only one team (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or better
So this is by no means our (PL football's) first stinko year.
Is this revelation supposed to make me feel better or worse. I think worse.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2019 12:47:50 GMT -5
Non-factor for me. I root for the PL champ in post-season and don’t care about team records at that point. Whatever the record, it was good enough to get the team into post-season play. Of course, when that team is Holy Cross, it “doubles my fun.”
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Post by crusader12 on Nov 22, 2019 13:17:02 GMT -5
It's raining in Worcester. Looking more and more like baseball field will be closed. Too bad! To the HoJo we go!
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2019 13:32:21 GMT -5
I think just last year only the PL champ (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or above.
The year before last, only one team (Colgate) had an overall record .500 or better
So this is by no means our (PL football's) first stinko year.
NFL clubs have qualified for playoffs as a wildcard team by playing .500 during regular season. have not heard any complaints about that. always felt that you should win more than lose to qualify for the post-season but again i hold the minotity view. While this has nothing to do with PL non-champions having poor records, I think two or three times in the entire history of the history of the NFL a sub.500 team has hit the playoffs and it has been accompanied by folks complaining about a mediocre team getting in.
In any case, I think the point was made that PL football might not be at its zenith right now.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2019 14:13:45 GMT -5
The post Duffner 28 years? The good news is you don't have to suffer anymore, you can just find something else to do with your free time. Actually, I'm very psyched about tomorrow and the FB program. I can sense the same "can do" spirit and positive drive in Coach Chesney that I felt when Coach Carter took over and then during the Duffner years. I wonder if others have the same sense? There is also something unpredictable about the PL where an underdog can win on any given Saturday and often does, which adds to the excitement/worry. To answer a previous question of who do we play next week? Maine I hope at Fitton Field. If the choice of where to locate the game is close, the fact that Worcester is below the Arctic Circle should favor us and Maine's alumni in the Boston area can easily attend.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2019 14:15:54 GMT -5
As am I. My biggest concerns have been about what snacks and beverages to have during the game.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 22, 2019 14:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 22, 2019 14:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Nov 22, 2019 16:07:08 GMT -5
It's raining in Worcester. Looking more and more like baseball field will be closed. Too bad! To the HoJo we go! Rain has pretty much let up, but I think the damage has been done. Looks pretty wet
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