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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 17, 2022 21:29:30 GMT -5
St.Peter’s a school with probably 95% less resources than Kentucky. Cinderella lives.
Great to see a fellow Jesuit school pull the upset tonight.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 17, 2022 21:48:10 GMT -5
The St.Peter’s players outplayed the Kentucky players. Shaheen Holloway, George Blaney’s captain at Seton Hall, outcoached Calipari St.Peter’s matchup zone came from Ralph W. through Kevin W. when Shaheen was Kevin’s assistant.at Seton Hall
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Post by joe on Mar 17, 2022 21:54:21 GMT -5
Somewhere Whitey Dukiet is smiling.
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 17, 2022 22:04:30 GMT -5
Somewhere Whitey Dukiet is smiling. Rupp is turning over lol
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Post by hchoops on Mar 17, 2022 22:42:07 GMT -5
Somewhere Whitey Dukiet is smiling. Rupp is turning over lol And probably not in heaven
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 17, 2022 23:02:52 GMT -5
Pretty lackluster performance from Vermont against an Arkansas team that was prime to be beaten tonight.
John Becker has won a ton of regular season games at Vermont, and I know it’s a different breed up there, but it’s gotta be a disappointment to never have won an NCAA game under him.
His name seems to come up for a lot of jobs, but I’m not sure how successful he’d be if he wasn’t able to beat up on the America East year in and year out.
(-Signed someone who had Vermont in the Sweet 16)
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 17, 2022 23:05:29 GMT -5
Pretty lackluster performance from Vermont against an Arkansas team that was prime to be beaten tonight. John Becker has won a ton of regular season games at Vermont, and I know it’s a different breed up there, but it’s gotta be a disappointment to never have won an NCAA game under him. His name seems to come up for a lot of jobs, but I’m not sure how successful he’d be if he wasn’t able to beat up on the America East year in and year out. (-Signed someone who had Vermont in the Sweet 16) He took Davis out for far too long of a stretch midway through the second half when he tried to give him a blow. When he came back in, he never got any looks or back into the flow of the game. That was a major snafu from Becker. Becker is a good coach, but there are a lot of guys who’d win in Burlington. Probably even Brett Nelson.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 18, 2022 4:52:54 GMT -5
Pool aside, I always have an extra bounce in my step when non majors win, so I'm a happy camper this morning!
I only watched the first half of the UVM game. Agree about Becker; I get the feeling he may be a lifer there. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
What a pleasure it was watching St. Peter's! Love the attitude - you could tell they didn't give a sh*t about the name on the other jerseys. So ironic that they are the MAAC team to do damage in the tournament!
St. Peter's style is a bit like what I thought CBN was talking about with "Attack and Serve", aggressive, physical but not out of control. And I know many ache for one of those 6-12 guys to land here, but I just love those 6-7, 6-8, 6-9 kids like SP has that can take the ball at the foul line an go aggressively to the rim; can move their feet to take charges, etc. Like Jehvye, for example.
Hoping this can continue this weekend to keep me interested in the tourney!
And have a nice offseason, Mr. and Mrs. McCrybaby!!
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 18, 2022 5:03:49 GMT -5
I also never look at these 12 vs 5 winners as huge upsets, either. Many times you have a hungry champ from a higher rated mid major (like Richmond) over a power school that may have a flaw or two (like Iowa).
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Post by hchoops on Mar 18, 2022 8:46:01 GMT -5
Pretty lackluster performance from Vermont against an Arkansas team that was prime to be beaten tonight. John Becker has won a ton of regular season games at Vermont, and I know it’s a different breed up there, but it’s gotta be a disappointment to never have won an NCAA game under him. His name seems to come up for a lot of jobs, but I’m not sure how successful he’d be if he wasn’t able to beat up on the America East year in and year out. (-Signed someone who had Vermont in the Sweet 16) Certainly Vermont had its chances, but Arkansas was a 4 seed for good reasons. The SEC is a better prep for the dance than the AE. Becker is a good coach. His teams do pretty well in the non conference.games also. Pomeroy- 56 Arkansas- 19
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 18, 2022 9:39:02 GMT -5
Pretty lackluster performance from Vermont against an Arkansas team that was prime to be beaten tonight. John Becker has won a ton of regular season games at Vermont, and I know it’s a different breed up there, but it’s gotta be a disappointment to never have won an NCAA game under him. His name seems to come up for a lot of jobs, but I’m not sure how successful he’d be if he wasn’t able to beat up on the America East year in and year out. (-Signed someone who had Vermont in the Sweet 16) Certainly Vermont had its chances, but Arkansas was a 4 seed for good reasons. The SEC is a better prep for the dance than the AE. Becker is a good coach. His teams do pretty well in the non conference.games also. Pomeroy- 56 Arkansas- 19 St. Peters KP: 107 Kentucky KP: 7 New Mexico St KP: 74 UCONN KP: 21 ----------- But the KP stat that I think is most relevant is eFG%: Vermont: #4 Arkansas: #219 Vermont was also the 4th most experienced team in the country per KenPom. This was a prime matchup for a mid-major program to win a first round game (one that I would have loved for any of the HC teams from the 00's to have had), and Vermont was not ready to capitalize on it. Colgate also has a great matchup tonight, so we'll see if Langel has them more ready to go than Becker did.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 18, 2022 10:01:25 GMT -5
Iowa ran out of gas and Indiana tried to play the game on an empty tank. Kind of embarrassing in both cases.
The last 2 big hoops Richmond got were baseline drives from a 48% foul shooter. Grab the guy outside and take your chances, Fran!
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Post by hchoops on Mar 18, 2022 10:09:08 GMT -5
Fran pays little attention to that end of the court
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Post by hcnation on Mar 18, 2022 20:20:41 GMT -5
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Post by alum on Mar 18, 2022 20:30:31 GMT -5
Kevin Nickelberry having a somewhat rough debut but it is tied at 31 . LSU's Kevin Nickleberry is assessed a technical for an illegal substitution (six players on the floor). How? OMG
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Post by timholycross on Mar 19, 2022 6:11:45 GMT -5
Illinois struggled mightily offensively. Clearly Grandison shouldn't be playing (and didn't much), damaged goods. Lot of selfish guys out there chucking up outside shots as opposed to getting it down low.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 19, 2022 7:18:50 GMT -5
ND men over Alabama and that always sounds nice. ND women play UMass tonight. My wife (a grad) and I will be rooting for the latter.
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 19, 2022 8:15:14 GMT -5
Kevin Nickelberry having a somewhat rough debut but it is tied at 31 . LSU's Kevin Nickleberry is assessed a technical for an illegal substitution (six players on the floor). How? OMG Out of a timeout, LSU put 6 players on the floor, the refs put the ball in play. Then blew the whistle immediately.. The Refs fault really, they are suppose to count the number of players on the floor after a time out, I have seen many refs do this to avoid what happened...The 6th player was speaking with Nickleberry and then went o the court..
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Post by CHC8485 on Mar 19, 2022 9:34:44 GMT -5
Wasn't out of a time out, just a stoppage in play where subs were being allowed in. And actually I thought the same thing - ref's fault.
But then they showed an angle where a player, whom I assumed just walked off the court, passed behind Nickleberry headed to the bench. For some reason, the player turned around and hustled back behind Nickelberry and onto the court. I think perhaps an assistant, who was put into that role a few days ago, told the player to go back, thinking someone else had been subbed out. The player got 2 feet onto the court, just before the ball was put in play.
Here's what Nickelberry said about it that kind reinforces some of the the assumptions above and what the video showed
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Post by Tom on Mar 19, 2022 10:58:20 GMT -5
Sometimes I see coaches give each player on the bench a towel. When a player subs in from the bench, he gives his towel to the gut he subs in for. All the players know they shouldn't be on the floor holding a towel
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Post by timholycross on Mar 19, 2022 11:06:12 GMT -5
Sometimes I see coaches give each player on the bench a towel. When a player subs in from the bench, he gives his towel to the gut he subs in for. All the players know they shouldn't be on the floor holding a towel They use pinnies in soccer, same effect.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 19, 2022 12:28:58 GMT -5
Wasn't out of a time out, just a stoppage in play where subs were being allowed in. And actually I thought the same thing - ref's fault. But then they showed an angle where a player, whom I assumed just walked off the court, passed behind Nickleberry headed to the bench. For some reason, the player turned around and hustled back behind Nickelberry and onto the court. I think perhaps an assistant, who was put into that role a few days ago, told the player to go back, thinking someone else had been subbed out. The player got 2 feet onto the court, just before the ball was put in play. Here's what Nickelberry said about it that kind reinforces some of the the assumptions above and what the video showed To me, it looked like Nickelberry was distracted arguing with the ref about something and wasn’t paying attention to the substitution, allowing the 6th guy to walk right behind him and onto the floor.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 19, 2022 12:38:04 GMT -5
Pretty lackluster performance from Vermont against an Arkansas team that was prime to be beaten tonight. John Becker has won a ton of regular season games at Vermont, and I know it’s a different breed up there, but it’s gotta be a disappointment to never have won an NCAA game under him. His name seems to come up for a lot of jobs, but I’m not sure how successful he’d be if he wasn’t able to beat up on the America East year in and year out. (-Signed someone who had Vermont in the Sweet 16) I get a bit of the same Becker vibes with Matt Langel at Colgate. He has certainly done a great job recruiting (mixing high school kids & transfers) and developing talent, but is there anything about his coaching that is going to give his team an advantage against more talented teams? Wisconsin was certainly a tough, physical defensive team (reminded me a little of the HC-So. Ill. game where they were basically daring the officials to call a foul every possession), but there were two very long stretches where Colgate could not buy a basket and there was absolutely no sign of an offensive set to get them any decent looks. (And to beat the HCBN haters to the punch, I am hopeful that Nelson is not yet a finished product and will continue to develop X’s & O’s. Whereas Langel sort of is what he is at this point.)
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Post by mm67 on Mar 19, 2022 12:39:12 GMT -5
Coaches need to model successful behavior. Stop playing against the refs and play against your opponents on the other team.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 19, 2022 13:15:56 GMT -5
Pretty lackluster performance from Vermont against an Arkansas team that was prime to be beaten tonight. John Becker has won a ton of regular season games at Vermont, and I know it’s a different breed up there, but it’s gotta be a disappointment to never have won an NCAA game under him. His name seems to come up for a lot of jobs, but I’m not sure how successful he’d be if he wasn’t able to beat up on the America East year in and year out. (-Signed someone who had Vermont in the Sweet 16) I get a bit of the same Becker vibes with Matt Langel at Colgate. He has certainly done a great job recruiting (mixing high school kids & transfers) and developing talent, but is there anything about his coaching that is going to give his team an advantage against more talented teams? Wisconsin was certainly a tough, physical defensive team (reminded me a little of the HC-So. Ill. game where they were basically daring the officials to call a foul every possession), but there were two very long stretches where Colgate could not buy a basket and there was absolutely no sign of an offensive set to get them any decent looks. (And to beat the HCBN haters to the punch, I am hopeful that Nelson is not yet a finished product and will continue to develop X’s & O’s. Whereas Langel sort of is what he is at this point.) Do you think Nelson’s X and Os have improved in his 2 1/2 seasons ? please give examples.
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